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  • Satai with Punsch
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    Originally posted by babylonlurker View Post

    From TNG I would rank The Inner Light higher than Darmok, but yes, Darmok is still excellent.
    That are some good suggestions.
    As far TNG goes both are good. The Inner Light is maybe a better Patric Stewart piece? I recently re-watched The Lower Decks and was surprised that it still was a very good episode.

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  • babylonlurker
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    Originally posted by AstroBoy View Post
    I just found this thread, and in addtion to the ones already mentioned, I have to add:

    Breaking Bad: Ozymandias. One of (if not) the best episode of the series. Possibly one of the best episodes ever on TV.
    Star Trek TNG: The Inner Light or Darmok (TIE IMO)
    The Sopranos: Pine Barrens
    WRKP in Cincinnati: The Thanksgiving Episode.

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    From TNG I would rank The Inner Light higher than Darmok, but yes, Darmok is still excellent.

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  • AstroBoy
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    I just found this thread, and in addtion to the ones already mentioned, I have to add:

    Breaking Bad: Ozymandias. One of (if not) the best episode of the series. Possibly one of the best episodes ever on TV.
    Star Trek TNG: The Inner Light or Darmok (TIE IMO)
    The Sopranos: Pine Barrens
    WRKP in Cincinnati: The Thanksgiving Episode.

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  • Satai with Punsch
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    Originally posted by babylonlurker View Post
    The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances really stand out, so does Blink.

    A little (personal) anecdote about Blink. I gave the DVD with Blink on it to a young friend (14 at that moment), and told her not to watch it just before bed time. Later she came back and told me I was right, she had watched it with a friend and had to walk back home in the dark. I had to chuckle a bit at that story.

    lol Why am I not surprised in the least. That is a scary story indeed.



    Oh, I have not seen any of the new Twin peaks yet, so your suggestion Ubik sounds very intriguing.


    Midnight is indeed a very good and uncomfortable Dr Who episode. I would not put it in my personal top 10 perfect episodes though, as it is uncomfortable, but not in the good way. Maybe 'cos it hits to close to home with the kind of xenophobia we see everyday nowadays.

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  • Ubik
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    Originally posted by Jonas View Post
    Finally watched the show a while ago, and while the overall thing is frequently quite flawed (getting better as it goes), that episode is fantastic. What really got to me was Harold speaking about how chess isn't a good metaphor for human life. Beautiful.

    And, in a show that's not very funny, a couple of laugh-out-loud moments, too.
    Wow, I'd forgotten I worked through this show. It really improves as it goes.

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  • Jonas
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    Originally posted by Ubik View Post
    Okay, I'm going to add one from a series I'm currently watching. I've been ill as a dog all weekend with norovirus, so binge watched a good chunk of Person of Interest on Netflix. Have been casually watching the series as 'chill out' viewing and it's held my attention quite well.

    I just hit the S4 episode 'If Then Else' and wow, it had me choking up at two points. The final scene just left me in tears. Didn't realise how much I'd grown to love the characters. Good TV. Definite high point of the show so far, in terms of writing and direction.
    Finally watched the show a while ago, and while the overall thing is frequently quite flawed (getting better as it goes), that episode is fantastic. What really got to me was Harold speaking about how chess isn't a good metaphor for human life. Beautiful.

    And, in a show that's not very funny, a couple of laugh-out-loud moments, too.

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  • Triple F
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    Sticking with Dr Who I’d probably include “Midnight” amongst some of the strongest writing and more uncomfortable (but great) episodes. (David Tennant, S4-E10).

    The final episode of Life on Mars (the UK original one, obviously) was pretty good, really nice twist.

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  • Ubik
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    Twin Peaks - The Return (Aka Season 3)

    S3E08 - THE WATER & THE WELL

    I don't even know where to start with this, but it could have aired as a stand alone movie. It's Lynch really pushing the envelope of what TV can be and it was just beautiful, terrifying and surreal but also had tight internal logic on the origins of evil, pertaining to Twin Peaks as a whole. I loved it.

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  • Looney
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    Originally posted by babylonlurker View Post
    The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances really stand out, so does Blink.

    A little (personal) anecdote about Blink. I gave the DVD with Blink on it to a young friend (14 at that moment), and told her not to watch it just before bed time. Later she came back and told me I was right, she had watched it with a friend and had to walk back home in the dark. I had to chuckle a bit at that story.
    HA! Kids never listen. Or they decide that they were told not to watch it just before bed time so that is exactly when they are going to watch it.

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  • babylonlurker
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    Originally posted by Satai with Punsch View Post
    I'm going to add a few Doctor Who episodes to this list of TV greatness.

    The Empty Child two-parter from season one and Blink from season two.

    Sure, they are not on the level of Sleeping in Light or Objects in Space, but as TV go they are solid in both writing, acting and producing. There are of course many really good episodes in the early (new) seasons of Doctor Who, but these stand out to me.
    The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances really stand out, so does Blink.

    A little (personal) anecdote about Blink. I gave the DVD with Blink on it to a young friend (14 at that moment), and told her not to watch it just before bed time. Later she came back and told me I was right, she had watched it with a friend and had to walk back home in the dark. I had to chuckle a bit at that story.

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  • Satai with Punsch
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    I'm going to add a few Doctor Who episodes to this list of TV greatness.

    The Empty Child two-parter from season one and Blink from season two.

    Sure, they are not on the level of Sleeping in Light or Objects in Space, but as TV go they are solid in both writing, acting and producing. There are of course many really good episodes in the early (new) seasons of Doctor Who, but these stand out to me.

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  • WorkerCaste
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    I have to confess, I don't believe in a truly perfect TV episode, or, really, a perfect just about anything. At least not anything created through a complex process. That being said, the way I thought about perfect when this thread starting runs like this:

    Writing: No real plot holes (will accept gaps, etc. that have one or more possible, plausible explanations.) Character dialog and actions remain true to the established norms for that character. Guest roles with some depth and internal consistency.

    Acting: Portrayal consistent with established norms for regular or recurring characters. Guest actors matched well with role. Let me understand the character's emotions and motivations.

    Production: Very good video, audio, and effects without significant goofs. High quality sets, dressing and props.

    That Extra Something: In addition, I feel the episode needs to bring something special to the show. The episode has to reach at least a little beyond the normal. It's only when you risk that you can create that exceptional work. I don't think of a "solid" episode without flaws as perfect.

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  • Satai with Punsch
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    We have a nice list. I've put in a few of the ones mentioned earlier. Sarthaz mentioned a lot, so I was not sure which to put in, but feel free to add any ones you like to the list.

    The question becomes, what makes an episode perfect? If we are talking great I can put in a bundle, the whole of Firefly for example, but perfect? To me it is an episode that makes you forget the outside world while viewing and at the same time you cant find anything that could have been made a little better. Everything is, well, perfect. But it also have to work somewhat as a stand alone and not be dependent on other episodes to "make the greatness".



    -Babylon 5: Sleeping in Light, Intersections in Real Time, Severed Dreams
    -Fringe: An Enemy of Fate, A Short Story About Love, An Enemy of Fate, White Tulip
    -M.a.s.h.: Final episode, second half, Point of View (s7), Life time (s8)
    -Blakes 7: Final episode
    -Firefly: Objects in Space, Out of Gas
    -Buffy: Restless (s4), The Body, Once More With Feeling, Gentlemen
    -Person of interest: If then else (s4), Carter (3.4)
    -Lost: the Finale, Tricia Tanaka Is Dead,
    -Stargate Universe: Epilogue
    -Jeremiah: Finale
    -Farscape: Peacekeeper Wars, Bad Timing
    -Six Feet Under: Everyone's Waiting

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  • WorkerCaste
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    In addition to the M.A.S.H. finale, I'd put up a couple of other ground-breaking episodes.

    Season 7 - Point of View - all done form the POV of a wounded soldier who couldn't speak due to his injury.

    Season 8 - Life time - An episode done in real time

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  • sarthaz
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    Originally posted by Delenn_of_Mir View Post
    Farscape's "Peacekeeper Wars" miniseries that they did after the show was prematurely canceled, was pretty darn perfect, in my estimation.
    I didn't enjoy "Peacekeeper Wars" that much, but the preceding "Bad Timing" is spectacular. On its own, it's probably the best episode of the series, but taken in the context of Bonnie Hammer's dismantling of the Sci-Fi Channel and the cast/crew's knowledge that they'd been lied to and cheated out a 5th Season, it becomes something truly special, because they had the time to change it and they didn't. They changed the name of the episode to reflect the circumstances and then delivered the most badass cliffhanger followed by a giant middle finger to Hammer in the form of "To Be Continued ..." It was so good that I would have been OK with it being the last Farscape we ever saw, and that's high praise.

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