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Much as I loved Trek in my teens, I have zero interest in new Trek.
I'd rather see some new SF TV with it's own fresh ideas and universe. Getting so tired of the same old crap being recycled to death.
At the very least, I hope the new creative team can inject something different that really takes the show into uncharted territory. About 0.00001% chance of that happening, but I can dream.Captain John Sheridan: I really *hate* it when you do that.
Kosh: Good!
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Originally posted by Ubik View PostMuch as I loved Trek in my teens, I have zero interest in new Trek.
I'd rather see some new SF TV with it's own fresh ideas and universe. Getting so tired of the same old crap being recycled to death.
At the very least, I hope the new creative team can inject something different that really takes the show into uncharted territory. About 0.00001% chance of that happening, but I can dream.
I've been re-watching the first season of FarScape.
Loved the first episode.. an astronaut flying cutting edge technology is dropped into the middle of an alien space battle.
That was a man-meets-alien story turned it on it's head.
As in B5, the human (John Crichton) was not always the dominant species.
If the new Trek could take that approach It might have a chance.
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I finished Farscape a few months ago. Great premise, but I really disliked series. Most of the main characters annoyed me and I did not like how the story was laid out. You know a series has issues when your favorite characters are villains and you are rooting for them.
I'll give the new Trek series a shot, but I can't say I'm super excited.Susan Ivanova, "I'll be in the car."
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I liked Farscape. Still need to re-watch it at some point. Scorpius was a brilliant antagonist. I also loved the practical effects and Jim Henson puppets. As a whole the show was inventive and quite irreverent when it came to SF conventions.
I still need to get through all of LEXX too, which had a similar vibe to Farscape, perhaps even more zany.
Yeah, I'd watch new Trek, but the prospect doesn't really excite me like it might have done 10 years ago. I am more excited by new things. Of all the stuff I checked out this year, I quite enjoyed Killjoys, even though it definitely owed a debt to Firefly. But, so what, new Firefly is never going to happen. I'd love new Space Opera like B5, I hear there's a Hyperion adaptation in the works, but again, the books are so good, why bother.Last edited by Ubik; 11-03-2015, 03:19 AM.Captain John Sheridan: I really *hate* it when you do that.
Kosh: Good!
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Originally posted by Ubik View PostScorpius was a brilliant antagonist. I also loved the practical effects and Jim Henson puppets. As a whole the show was inventive and quite irreverent when it came to SF conventions.
The plots were also inconsistent. What I mean is the plots were creative for creative sake and not for the sake of telling a decent story. I like creative and this show had tons of creativity it just didn't have the structure to tell the arc they ended up spewing out. And far too many of the plots revolved around internal strife. So and so isn't themselves this week. We're all not our selves this week. We're all each other this week. So and so is fighting with so and so this week. We're all fighting each other this week. We're all fighting the ship this week. Too much body switching. Too much mind switching. Not enough quality story arc. Yes Scorpius was far and away the best character, but even the stuff with Harvey was done to death after a season and a half and they KEPT doing it. I will admit it was often the funniest part of the show, but it really detracted from the overall arc for me.
Originally posted by Ubik View PostI still need to get through all of LEXX too, which had a similar vibe to Farscape, perhaps even more zany.Susan Ivanova, "I'll be in the car."
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Originally posted by Looney View PostYes those are all good qualities, but most of the main characters were inconsistent. Crichton was just awful and the other's personalities often changed week to week - on purpose. Some might say that added an element of realism, but they were too all over the place for me.
The plots were also inconsistent. What I mean is the plots were creative for creative sake and not for the sake of telling a decent story. I like creative and this show had tons of creativity it just didn't have the structure to tell the arc they ended up spewing out. And far too many of the plots revolved around internal strife. So and so isn't themselves this week. We're all not our selves this week. We're all each other this week. So and so is fighting with so and so this week. We're all fighting each other this week. We're all fighting the ship this week. Too much body switching. Too much mind switching. Not enough quality story arc. Yes Scorpius was far and away the best character, but even the stuff with Harvey was done to death after a season and a half and they KEPT doing it. I will admit it was often the funniest part of the show, but it really detracted from the overall arc for me.
The only recent show I can think of that had an arc and followed it through logically and properly, without stumbling at the finale, was Fringe. It surprised me that Abrams could be so amazingly consistent on that, and so woefully all over the place on Lost. Ah well, better writing team I suppose!Captain John Sheridan: I really *hate* it when you do that.
Kosh: Good!
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Originally posted by Ubik View PostThe only recent show I can think of that had an arc and followed it through logically and properly, without stumbling at the finale, was Fringe. It surprised me that Abrams could be so amazingly consistent on that, and so woefully all over the place on Lost. Ah well, better writing team I suppose!Susan Ivanova, "I'll be in the car."
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Originally posted by Looney View PostYou just made my day Ubik! I started watching Fringe several months ago, but got sidetracked. I've been meaning to start again and you just gave me a great reason.Jan from Denmark
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Suit: No, that's our core vision: teams of mastermind crimesolvers. If there's a time when there aren't more than 12 crimestopping teams on CBS, the universe implodes. What else do we own?
Other Suit: Space Trek? Those people will watch anything!
Suit: Do we have a script? A writer? An idea?
Other Suit: No.
Suit: Doesn't matter. Call Abrams, and ...
Other Suit: Abrams doesn't work for us.
Suit: Oh yeah. Call Kurtzman. He's loosely connected to the quality work of other people. Tell him to come up with something, but make it quick. We need to launch this before people figure out what we're doing.
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Originally posted by sarthaz View PostSuit: No one is using our All Access streaming service. How can we get people to buy it?
Other Suit: Can we exploit any of our shows? Maybe put a CSI on there? CSI: Vampires? CSI: Superheroes?
Suit: No, that's our core vision: teams of mastermind crimesolvers. If there's a time when there aren't more than 12 crimestopping teams on CBS, the universe implodes. What else do we own?
Other Suit: Space Trek? Those people will watch anything!
Suit: Do we have a script? A writer? An idea?
Other Suit: No.
Suit: Doesn't matter. Call Abrams, and ...
Other Suit: Abrams doesn't work for us.
Suit: Oh yeah. Call Kurtzman. He's loosely connected to the quality work of other people. Tell him to come up with something, but make it quick. We need to launch this before people figure out what we're doing.
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Originally posted by Looney View PostYou just made my day Ubik! I started watching Fringe several months ago, but got sidetracked. I've been meaning to start again and you just gave me a great reason.Captain John Sheridan: I really *hate* it when you do that.
Kosh: Good!
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