Star Trek is back on CBS 2017

[DaveNarn]

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/liv...s-works-828638

"A search is under way for a writer to take on the cult hit. The franchise is poised to celebrate its 50th anniversary as the original series debuted Sept. 8, 1966."

[JoeD80]

Wish I could sell a script like this. "I have a great idea. I'll get a writer later."

[Ubik]

Much as I loved Trek in my teens, I have zero interest in new Trek.

I'd rather see some new SF TV with it's own fresh ideas and universe. Getting so tired of the same old crap being recycled to death.

At the very least, I hope the new creative team can inject something different that really takes the show into uncharted territory. About 0.00001% chance of that happening, but I can dream.

[DaveNarn]

Much as I loved Trek in my teens, I have zero interest in new Trek.

I'd rather see some new SF TV with it's own fresh ideas and universe. Getting so tired of the same old crap being recycled to death.

At the very least, I hope the new creative team can inject something different that really takes the show into uncharted territory. About 0.00001% chance of that happening, but I can dream.

It's great that the interest in space films is on the rise and I hope for the best.

I've been re-watching the first season of FarScape.
Loved the first episode.. an astronaut flying cutting edge technology is dropped into the middle of an alien space battle.
That was a man-meets-alien story turned it on it's head.

As in B5, the human (John Crichton) was not always the dominant species.

If the new Trek could take that approach It might have a chance.

[Looney]

I finished Farscape a few months ago. Great premise, but I really disliked series. Most of the main characters annoyed me and I did not like how the story was laid out. You know a series has issues when your favorite characters are villains and you are rooting for them.

I'll give the new Trek series a shot, but I can't say I'm super excited.

[Ubik]

I liked Farscape. Still need to re-watch it at some point. Scorpius was a brilliant antagonist. I also loved the practical effects and Jim Henson puppets. As a whole the show was inventive and quite irreverent when it came to SF conventions.

I still need to get through all of LEXX too, which had a similar vibe to Farscape, perhaps even more zany.

Yeah, I'd watch new Trek, but the prospect doesn't really excite me like it might have done 10 years ago. I am more excited by new things. Of all the stuff I checked out this year, I quite enjoyed Killjoys, even though it definitely owed a debt to Firefly. But, so what, new Firefly is never going to happen. I'd love new Space Opera like B5, I hear there's a Hyperion adaptation in the works, but again, the books are so good, why bother.

[Looney]

Scorpius was a brilliant antagonist. I also loved the practical effects and Jim Henson puppets. As a whole the show was inventive and quite irreverent when it came to SF conventions.

Yes those are all good qualities, but most of the main characters were inconsistent. Crichton was just awful and the other's personalities often changed week to week - on purpose. Some might say that added an element of realism, but they were too all over the place for me.

The plots were also inconsistent. What I mean is the plots were creative for creative sake and not for the sake of telling a decent story. I like creative and this show had tons of creativity it just didn't have the structure to tell the arc they ended up spewing out. And far too many of the plots revolved around internal strife. So and so isn't themselves this week. We're all not our selves this week. We're all each other this week. So and so is fighting with so and so this week. We're all fighting each other this week. We're all fighting the ship this week. Too much body switching. Too much mind switching. Not enough quality story arc. Yes Scorpius was far and away the best character, but even the stuff with Harvey was done to death after a season and a half and they KEPT doing it. I will admit it was often the funniest part of the show, but it really detracted from the overall arc for me.

I still need to get through all of LEXX too, which had a similar vibe to Farscape, perhaps even more zany.

Lexx is similar to Farscape in with regard to what I said about being creative for creative sake. Lexx, however, goes so far into the ridiculously funny it is entertaining. I guess I like Lexx because I look at it is a dark ridiculous science fiction comedy and I look at Farscape as something that wanted to be epic science fiction and failed. I am sure there are people involved with Lexx who though it was an epic science fiction tale, but they are kidding themselves. Lexx has some really cool science fiction concepts and visuals at times, but on the whole it is one big humorous journey into the absurd.

[Ubik]

Yes those are all good qualities, but most of the main characters were inconsistent. Crichton was just awful and the other's personalities often changed week to week - on purpose. Some might say that added an element of realism, but they were too all over the place for me.

The plots were also inconsistent. What I mean is the plots were creative for creative sake and not for the sake of telling a decent story. I like creative and this show had tons of creativity it just didn't have the structure to tell the arc they ended up spewing out. And far too many of the plots revolved around internal strife. So and so isn't themselves this week. We're all not our selves this week. We're all each other this week. So and so is fighting with so and so this week. We're all fighting each other this week. We're all fighting the ship this week. Too much body switching. Too much mind switching. Not enough quality story arc. Yes Scorpius was far and away the best character, but even the stuff with Harvey was done to death after a season and a half and they KEPT doing it. I will admit it was often the funniest part of the show, but it really detracted from the overall arc for me.

Yes, if I cast my mind back. This is a totally fair critique of Farscape. It never really nailed a consistent arc, and did often descend into random chaos to get it’s kicks, veering wildly from one idea to the next. Extreme changes in characters, (space madness or whatnot) did often feature as plot devices. It’s been a long time since I watched the show, but what you say does ring true.

The only recent show I can think of that had an arc and followed it through logically and properly, without stumbling at the finale, was Fringe. It surprised me that Abrams could be so amazingly consistent on that, and so woefully all over the place on Lost. Ah well, better writing team I suppose!

[Looney]

The only recent show I can think of that had an arc and followed it through logically and properly, without stumbling at the finale, was Fringe. It surprised me that Abrams could be so amazingly consistent on that, and so woefully all over the place on Lost. Ah well, better writing team I suppose!

You just made my day Ubik! I started watching Fringe several months ago, but got sidetracked. I've been meaning to start again and you just gave me a great reason.

[babylonlurker]

You just made my day Ubik! I started watching Fringe several months ago, but got sidetracked. I've been meaning to start again and you just gave me a great reason.

I have watched all of Fringe, and I love it. I think the finale i sad, but very satisfying. Not quite on the level of SiL, but very good.

[sarthaz]

Suit: No one is using our All Access streaming service. How can we get people to buy it?
Other Suit: Can we exploit any of our shows? Maybe put a CSI on there? CSI: Vampires? CSI: Superheroes?
Suit: No, that's our core vision: teams of mastermind crimesolvers. If there's a time when there aren't more than 12 crimestopping teams on CBS, the universe implodes. What else do we own?
Other Suit: Space Trek? Those people will watch anything!
Suit: Do we have a script? A writer? An idea?
Other Suit: No.
Suit: Doesn't matter. Call Abrams, and ...
Other Suit: Abrams doesn't work for us.
Suit: Oh yeah. Call Kurtzman. He's loosely connected to the quality work of other people. Tell him to come up with something, but make it quick. We need to launch this before people figure out what we're doing.

[Dan Dassow]

Suit: No one is using our All Access streaming service. How can we get people to buy it?
Other Suit: Can we exploit any of our shows? Maybe put a CSI on there? CSI: Vampires? CSI: Superheroes?
Suit: No, that's our core vision: teams of mastermind crimesolvers. If there's a time when there aren't more than 12 crimestopping teams on CBS, the universe implodes. What else do we own?
Other Suit: Space Trek? Those people will watch anything!
Suit: Do we have a script? A writer? An idea?
Other Suit: No.
Suit: Doesn't matter. Call Abrams, and ...
Other Suit: Abrams doesn't work for us.
Suit: Oh yeah. Call Kurtzman. He's loosely connected to the quality work of other people. Tell him to come up with something, but make it quick. We need to launch this before people figure out what we're doing.

Star Trek: CSI or CSI: Star Trek - This has possibilities.

[Ubik]

You just made my day Ubik! I started watching Fringe several months ago, but got sidetracked. I've been meaning to start again and you just gave me a great reason.

Always happy to be of service! I love how we've managed to derail this thread to the point that we're no longer talking about the new Trek show!

[Looney]

I love how we've managed to derail this thread to the point that we're no longer talking about the new Trek show!

But I am thinking about it.

[Ubik]

But I am thinking about it.

Don't get me wrong, I'd LOVE to see a good new Trek show. I just have my doubts.