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  • #16
    RED ALERT! We've got another new trailer. The beard is back! The old uniforms make a cameo! 7 or 9 is doing her Ronin thing. And we introduce the most hated admiral in Star Trek history haha!

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    • #17
      YEEEES. Cannot wait for this! I know it's playing to my nostalgia for TNG, but it looks like it'll be its own thing. After DISCO S2, I am more than on board with nu-Trek. Much better than the last few Trek films.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by Ubik View Post
        YEEEES. Cannot wait for this! I know it's playing to my nostalgia for TNG, but it looks like it'll be its own thing. After DISCO S2, I am more than on board with nu-Trek. Much better than the last few Trek films.
        Yeah season 2 disco was a huge improvement. After finishing it I found myself craving a Captain Pike Enterprise show baaaaaad.
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        • #19
          Originally posted by Blake00 View Post

          Yeah season 2 disco was a huge improvement. After finishing it I found myself craving a Captain Pike Enterprise show baaaaaad.
          Same, I was actually hoping S3 had more focus on this.
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          • #20
            I just watched the first episode. The opening sequence of Episode 1 reminds me of Downton Abby but set in 25th century France.

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            • #21
              I'll admit i may be reading my own prejudices in here but...
              I'm not sseeing anywhere near the level of hate and vitirol i've seen aimed at discovery. One ownders how much is familiar charcters, rather than all new and how much is the fact that disocery is primarily female led. Sadly misonginy is alive and well in online fandom.
              I liked it, felt it ended a tad absuptly and left me wanting more, whihc is, after all, what we want in our sci fi
              "There are no good wars. War is always the worst possible way to resolve differences. It degenerates and corrupts both sides to ever more sordid levels of existence, in their need to gain an advantage over the enemy. Those actively involved in combat are almost always damaged goods for the rest of their lives. If their bodies don't bear scars, their minds do, ofttimes both. Many have said it before, but it can't be said to enough, war is hell. "

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              • #22
                I've seen the first ep now too.

                My thoughts (SPOILER ALERT):

                I loved the opening shot with the camera closing in on the Enterprise D (which had some interesting design modifications) and going through the window into to the room.. the kind of shot you always wanted to see as a kid watching TNG but knew they couldn't really do effectively (well not without spending some heavy money lol, which is kind of ironic considering the 60s failed trek pilot sort of has a camera through bridge window shot)..

                I enjoyed the whole episode but I feel like I can't quite give judgement yet. I need to know more about what's going on and need to see how things pan out story wise.

                Also the zero mention of Lal and Lore seems a bit strange in a world where the daystrom institute desperately wanted to replicate Data. I mean what happened to their parts after they were disassembled? B4 was in a drawer so where's the Lal and Lore drawers haha?

                First thought was.. did the writers forget them?.. but that seems unlikely consider they brought Hugh back which means they clearly remember Descent 1 & 2 which Lore was in. The whole Daughter 2.0 storyline suggests the Lal episode is something they know too. Plus Frakes directed that one and he's involved in Picard.
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                • #23
                  Just to chime in to say. I enjoyed this, if only to see Steward back in the role as Jean Luc. Story was a little bit hokey, but TNG wasn't exactly high art either. I'll be a fun watch I think. I hope the show stands up well on its own once I am over the nostalgia factor.
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                  • #24
                    Iv'e said this before I'll say it again,. To those fans of a certain age, not since the late 70s and early80s have we had such a huge selection of genre shows to watch. Some are terrible, either unwatchable terrible or terribly entertainingly bad. Some are brilliant. Most are ok.
                    What a time to be alive.
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by phazedout View Post
                      Iv'e said this before I'll say it again,. To those fans of a certain age, not since the late 70s and early80s have we had such a huge selection of genre shows to watch. Some are terrible, either unwatchable terrible or terribly entertainingly bad. Some are brilliant. Most are ok.
                      What a time to be alive.
                      This is very true. It feels a bit like the boom in the mid 90s where we had loads of SF shows. Not all of them good, but as an SF nerd you were well catered for (B5, Trek, Space Above and Beyond, Farscape, Earth Final Conflict, Stargate, Guyver, etc, etc).

                      Same is true now. We have some powerhouse stuff, The Expanse, multiple Trek iterations, The Madalorian, etc.

                      Nerd stuff is mainstream, as you say, what a time to be alive!
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                      • #26
                        Agreed! We're getting saturated in big budget movie quality scifi TV shows these days and I'm loving it!

                        Apparently CBS has posted the first episode of Picard on YouTube for a limited time. So, if you dont have All Access and want to check it out, you have til Feb 7 to watch it for free. Naturally it's region locked though urgh.

                        Episode 2 of Picard seen. Glad it explains some of the mysteries & fan complaints about the first episode. SPOILER ALERT

                        A few fans complained about the weird Starfleet HQ 'rooftop cleanup' job & leave Picard on his couch with no questions asked scene jump moment in ep 1 but now we see the Commodore reviewing the battle cleanup footage (questioning it's effectiveness) and discover this fascinating Starfleet conspiracy with secret Romulan sect plot. I remember people in the past getting so upset about the English writing in the Romulan Borg research post but there are a lots of humans there which explains that one.

                        We see that the Androids that destroyed Utopia planitia were 'hacked' presumably by this secret synthetic hating Romulan faction. And holy moly they actually acknowledged Picard's Irumodic syndrome that afflicted him around now in the alternate future seen in TNG finale All Good Things. I'm impressed with their attention to detail (regarding old Trek events), which makes me hope the writers haven't forgotten Lore & Lal after all.

                        The only real gaff I saw was Laris saying Romulans never had a cybernetic program which contradicts the awesome TNG S3 ep the defector where Admiral Jarok tells Data that he knows a number of Romulan cyberneticists that would love to get their hands on him. Although then again maybe its not a gaff as we saw Romulan experts pulling apart dead Borg. You cant really study Borgs without some good cyberneticists lol. Probably just more Romulan secrets lol.
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                        • #27
                          I just saw the first episode on YouTube last night and enjoyed it.
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                          • #28
                            Something about the 2nd episode really didn't work for me. It felt somehow rushed, with way too many weirdly improbably plot beats and some really ham fisted writing. It just felt, really messy to me and unconvincing. I'll stick with it for sure, but Ep. 2 left me pretty cold and not wanting more. The whole plot has me kinda bored already, and I hate to say it, but not sure I want Trek with arcs. I'd settle for some great anthology style episodes like the old shows.

                            Hoping it finds its feet in subsequent episodes once we have the groundwork laid for the 'big bad / threat'.
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                            • #29
                              My thoughts on what's led to some peoples frustrations with ep 1 & ep2 (once again has spoilers):
                              It's funny. Am involved in a number of Picard forum discussions around the net and I see some people complaining about too much exposition yet I see others complaining about being confused due to not enough info lol. Makes me think they probably should have just done Ep 1 & 2 together as a pilot movie (that would have avoided some of the anger about confusing things in ep1 that were explained in ep 2) then they could have had the big trailer at the end of the 2hrs showing that the adventure kicks off next episode. Instead we got a ep1 that confused people and an exciting trailer at the end of it that implied the adventure was about to begin when in reality the next ep was still farting around on earth lol. So yeah I reckon a combined double ep pilot would have pissed off/confused far less people.


                              Anyway I'm still enjoying the show but am still unsure as to whether I actually really really like it or not. Still need to see how story pans out lol.
                              Episode 3 seen: (spoiler alert)
                              Not thrilled about how they continue to make Picard look slow, weak & frail. You watch him on talk shows and he zips around just fine lol! But I love the fact that in ep 3 it appears writers are trying to address one of those funny never explained issues from old trek.

                              When I was young it always annoyed me how in TNG supposedly a Borg who got his individuality somehow broke a friggin cube and caused a rebellion on it of sorts when assimilating individuals is what the Borg do lol. Voyager & FC ended up adding a lot of info on how the borg worked, how they connect, and made it pretty obvious that assimilating ex borgs (eg 7 of 9, the borg kids, locutus etc) back into the fold wasn't going to break anything lol, in fact they wanted them. Yes Hugh was a Borg test tube baby and not a previous individual unlike those others I mention but it shouldn't really matter HOW they became an individual when you're grabbing someone and pumping nanites into their blood and connecting them to the hive lol.

                              However it looks like the new trek writers are carving a story where in reality, Hugh went back to the Borg they reassimilated him no probs but then a few hours later on the trip back to delta they found a nice little yummy Romulan intelligence vessel on the way to assimilate, they start 'processing them' and then 'something' goes wrong (Romulan virus? weapon? racial nanite rejection like the Denobulans?). Hugh presumably wakes up and pops out of his alcove again thinking its somehow caused by him (hence why he later tells Picard in Descent that it was his fault), all the other borgs who don't know how to be individuals start goin nuts and they kick off a nice little rebellion which then at some point Lore arrives on the scene and takes control of them and they escape on the light cruiser which we see in Descent (small borg ships inside big borg ships is nothing new). In fact this new obvious Romulan ex-borg fears of Dahj's sister (ie synthetics) could very well be relating to trauma from what Lore did to many of them when he took over things which once again gives me hope Lore will somehow come into this new story at some point. Probably a long shot though haha..

                              Am I way off.. we shall see haha.
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                              • #30
                                I felt like Ep.3 was an improvement, and in some ways this felt like the 'real' start to the show. There were still some very dumb lines Raffi's 'emotional' scene on her dismissal, "I lost my security clearance", made me laugh out loud. How horrible. Hahahaha. Not your security clearance! However did you survive?

                                I may be warming to the show a bit more, after what seemed like a very weak ep. 2. Still not sure on overall direction. Could be interesting. I am getting kinda tired of these things always having to tie back to the past.
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