Crusade: WTHH - Vol. 1 - SPOILERS

[OmahaStar]

Give us some feedback

Hmm, ok. There isn't nearly enough focus on the star of the series, Jane. Be it Babylon 5 or the spin-off Crusade, she was the real star, but the scriptbooks make it seem like she's just a minor character, along the lines of Zack or Franklin. Focus!

[Dan Dassow]

Hmm, ok. There isn't nearly enough focus on the star of the series, Jane. Be it Babylon 5 or the spin-off Crusade, she was the real star, but the scriptbooks make it seem like she's just a minor character, along the lines of Zack or Franklin. Focus!

We live for the Jan. We die for the Jan.

[OmahaStar]

We live for the Jan. We die for the Jan.

Jane, not Jan.

[nottenst]

the Pat Tallman incident

I am just starting the Vol 1 and I got to page 20 last night in JMS' introduction to the series. On page 20 he talks about what the studio and network did so that Andreas Katsulas would not become Galen. He also says, "They'd pulled this previously with Pat Tallman after the pilot ..."

I think this is the first time I've seen JMS talk about this in such words. Back in a post dated 8/22/1993 12:41:00 PM he just says "in deference to other opportunities which she felt were more promising, Pat Tallman passed on returning to the B5 project."

I remember being at a convention where Pat Tallman talked about this and her story was quite along the lines of WB messing around not unlike the situation JMS talks about with Andreas here.

[frulad]

Ordered mine last night and it's already shipped today. How quickly can it get from Kentucky to Pennsylvania?

And the answer is two days. Just checked and it is out for delivery from the local UPS depot.

Hooray!

[frulad]

Jane, not Jan.

The hero of Canton?

[Jan]

I think this is the first time I've seen JMS talk about this in such words. Back in a post dated 8/22/1993 12:41:00 PM he just says "in deference to other opportunities which she felt were more promising, Pat Tallman passed on returning to the B5 project."

He went into more detail about the salary 'negotiations' with Pat in the script books and it was clear that the PTBs used salary as a way to eliminate her. I was at least as interested to hear that they'd also tried it on JMS himself back in the day.

Jan

[WorkerCaste]

So help out your Scripts Team, okay? Give us some feedback

Got mine yesterday, and I have to say I really like...

the shipping box.

I keep trying to get my priorities straightened out, but somehow work keeps coming back to the top. It's that whole paycheck thing. They just don't understand. There is, however, a long weekend. I remain hopeful!

[Karen]

Happy day. Mine is out for delivery, too!

[JoeD80]

we hear that you got them and then....

...silence...you go off and read them and the next thing we hear is y'all wondering when the next one will be. So we figure you like what was in it but hardly anybody ever actually says what they like or don't.

Isn't there usually a separate spoilers thread for the discussion of the book itself? I was going to start one this weekend if nobody had by then.

[Jan]

It's been so long since there were actually spoilers to discuss...I dunno, I'm fine with just continuing things here and adding a spoiler warning to the subject header. In fact, I'll do that now.

Jan

[KoshN]

The hero of Canton?

is in his bunk.

[KoshN]

I know how the JMS scripts are broken up now, but I wouldn't want to commit to anything, lest they shift volumes between now and publication.

Thanks. I just wanted to make sure that ALL of the JMS Crusade scripts, both filmed and unfilmed, were included somewhere in this four volume set, and that the non-JMS scripts, both filmed and unfilmed were included in an Other Voices set.

It'd also be nice if some details on the rest of the scripts of the planned 22 episode first season, could be given. e.g. the Dureena sword trilogy.


p.s. I'm glad that we got Peter Woodward as Galen. If Andreas had been Galen, every time I heard the voice, I'd be thinking G'Kar, and it would have thrown me out of the story. IMHO, Peter was perfect as Galen, plus then we got the natural fit of Edward Woodward as Alwyn. Can't get better than that.

[JoeD80]

It's been so long since there were actually spoilers to discuss...I dunno, I'm fine with just continuing things here and adding a spoiler warning to the subject header. In fact, I'll do that now.

Thanks Jan! I had held back on a couple of things because I wasn't sure about the spoilers.

Joe's commentary in the book helps illuminate a lot of the posts around season 4/5 renewal and the buildup to Crusade. It was interesting to read that Warners decided their sequel to Babylon 5 should have no connection to Babylon 5 because they didn't want viewers to feel like they had to watch the first show to watch the second show, but then they wanted to jump-start Crusade by having those characters appear in Babylon 5, which also explains Joe's comments back then about "A Call to Arms" being a Babylon 5 movie that wasn't a part of Crusade.

I thought an interesting character in the early treatment (besides Zathras and Marcus ) was a Minbari named Varenni from the warrior caste that felt Earth got what they deserved with the Drakh plague; apparently that character's background depended on Babylon 5 too much as well. It's too bad TNT didn't just let Joe loose to do what he wanted with the show.

Am reading the original draft of "Racing the Night" right now, and it feels more quickly paced than the final episode; enjoying it so far. I hope "random TNT memo quote" right before the scripts is a continuing feature - loved this one: "The ship is an under used character. Gideon needs to 'drive' it more."

[JasonDavis]

I hope "random TNT memo quote" right before the scripts is a continuing feature - loved this one: "The ship is an under used character. Gideon needs to 'drive' it more."

Attorneys willing, I don't think you'll be disappointed in this regard...