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  • #16
    Saddened

    I've just read JMS's tribute to Andreas (book arrived today). Please bear in mind that I've done no more than glance at any of the other volumes, but I felt I had to read this one.
    I'm knocked sideways again, like I was when I first read about his death, Joe's words bring it flooding back.

    Farewell Andreas, hope you're somehwere reading this, and happy.
    Phaze
    "There are no good wars. War is always the worst possible way to resolve differences. It degenerates and corrupts both sides to ever more sordid levels of existence, in their need to gain an advantage over the enemy. Those actively involved in combat are almost always damaged goods for the rest of their lives. If their bodies don't bear scars, their minds do, ofttimes both. Many have said it before, but it can't be said to enough, war is hell. "

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    • #17
      Originally posted by KaCHING64
      I think you're giving agents far too much benefit of the doubt. They are the lowest and slimiest players in the Hollywood food chain - by far. Studio executives and some producers are slightly higher by comparison. When agents run amok on behalf of their clients in their own self interest, it can damage an actor in the community. In the case of Foxworth's appearance in B5, JMS seemed to indicate that there was direct dialog with Foxworth himself. One could surmise that Foxworth was owning the double booking rather than his agent. Lastly, choosing the larger paycheck over a prior commitment shouldn't surprise anyone in this business. Integrity is truly a scarce commodity in Hollywood.
      I can't say I'm that familiar with the inner workings of show biz, but I know if I was being represented in anything and I could possibly be considered in breach of contract, I would expect to be notified and make the decision myself. Now, with regard to JMS's post, I would certainly have my representative make the call, especially if they were the ones that put me in the position in the first place, but it would have been after my decision. But, then, that's me. This may be so common place in the industry that it doesn't really register.
      "That was the law, as set down by Valen. Three castes: worker, religious, warrior."

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Jan
        The best one, though, was the one of G'Kar's uniform. I'd've loved to have seen that in person. One of these days if I'm ever in LA for a con, I'll have to check out that museum.
        JMS saw the headless uniform in a theatre lobby; it was a special exhibit for whatever that industry event was. The only museum I know of that has B5 uniforms on display is the SF Museum in Seattle (at least, they did at one time - I can check with friends in Seattle if anyone is burning to know if they're still there).

        Amy

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        • #19
          Originally posted by AmyG
          JMS saw the headless uniform in a theatre lobby; it was a special exhibit for whatever that industry event was.
          If my reading of Vol6 was correct, it was a WB event for the launch of AOL's service offering WB shows (including B5) for online viewing.
          The Optimist: The glass is half full
          The Pessimist: The glass is half empty
          The Engineer: The glass is twice as big as it needs to be

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          • #20
            Originally posted by AmyG
            JMS saw the headless uniform in a theatre lobby; it was a special exhibit for whatever that industry event was.
            According to what JMS wrote, the event was held at the Museum of Television and Radio in Beverly Hills, not at a theater.

            The only museum I know of that has B5 uniforms on display is the SF Museum in Seattle (at least, they did at one time - I can check with friends in Seattle if anyone is burning to know if they're still there).
            I don't know if the MoT&R has the G'Kar uniform on display or if they'd borrowed it from WB for the occassion. That's why I said I'd like to check that museum out if I ever get the chance.

            Jan
            "As empathy spreads, civilization spreads. As empathy contracts, civilization contracts...as we're seeing now.

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            • #21
              Has anybody else fired up the Season 4 opening title and followed along with JMS's memo about it in Volume 6? I just now got around to it. It's interesting to see what was left in and picture what was changed. After reading how he wanted the left hand scene to be active for the characters, I'm kind of surprised that he had both of Londo's frames from the same scene. As interesting as his watching the bombardment of Narn was, it wasn't an active one for Londo.

              Jan
              "As empathy spreads, civilization spreads. As empathy contracts, civilization contracts...as we're seeing now.

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              • #22
                I think that moment was a special point for Londo. Beforehand he wouldn't ally with a Narn against fellow Centauri. Afterwards I think he just knew how cruel man can be to his kind (or alien to alien, but I think that waters down the concept *g*). It was no moment where he was active in a sense that he did something, but he was fully aware that he was responsible for that, he didn't like it and he was to weak to take position against. Remember Midnight Nation? People who think they have no other way (That scene with the campfire-people *really* hit me)? I think that Londo was in a similar position here, especially when much later he sits on his throne and talkes about having all the power and no choices. I think there would be choice for him, even in that position, but he has to much fear to think of alternatives. But I am just babbling, haven't even read No. 6 atm, will have to wait until I have No. 2, 3, 4 and 5 through... I'm no native speaker/reader (sometimes: sadly).

                PeAcE
                greetings from austria, best known for its history and fine wine... feels like a wine cellar on a graveyard 8-)

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Harrdy
                  I think that moment was a special point for Londo. Beforehand he wouldn't ally with a Narn against fellow Centauri. Afterwards I think he just knew how cruel man can be to his kind (or alien to alien, but I think that waters down the concept *g*). It was no moment where he was active in a sense that he did something, but he was fully aware that he was responsible for that, he didn't like it and he was to weak to take position against.
                  I agree. You could sense the horror of his realizing that *he* was responsible for what he was seeing even if Refa had given the order.

                  Remember Midnight Nation? People who think they have no other way (That scene with the campfire-people *really* hit me)?
                  I do indeed and I sometimes have to fight the impulse to force people to read it when they whine about their lives but refuse to do anything.

                  I think that Londo was in a similar position here, especially when much later he sits on his throne and talkes about having all the power and no choices. I think there would be choice for him, even in that position, but he has to much fear to think of alternatives.
                  Good point. That fear led directly to to his heart problems in "The Very Long Night of Londo Mollari", too.

                  Jan
                  "As empathy spreads, civilization spreads. As empathy contracts, civilization contracts...as we're seeing now.

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                  • #24
                    There are photos attached to JMS's IMDB page now, showing JMS with Tracy Scoggins and JMS with Doug Netter posed with the G'Kar uniform JMS talked about in this volume. As Amy mentioned over on the mod group, you can see a bunch of defferent emotions in JMS and Tracy's expressions.

                    Jan
                    "As empathy spreads, civilization spreads. As empathy contracts, civilization contracts...as we're seeing now.

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