Top 50 SciFi according to Boston?

[Towelmaster]

A list for your amusement. Guess where B5 is?

http://www.boston.com/ae/tv/gallery/topscifishows/

[I love Lyta]

Hmmmmmmmm Erin Gray... *drools*

Xena, a series that ended too soon?!
Not soon enough I'd say...
Hercules was far better (opinions may vary).

Good to see that DS9 didn't even make it into the Top 50. But neither should have Voyager IMHO.

[Ranger1]

B5 at #5 hehehe,but,X-Files better than B5?

BSG at #2? don't you supose to judge the "Top sci-fi shows" after they are actually done? what will happen if the upcoming seasons will suck so bad? (im sure they wont,but you get my point).

As for #1 now thats not right,granted that Star Trek TOS was a landmark as a scifi show,but it never had deep stories or characters,i never watched TOS after i saw it the first time when i was a kid,i can't watch it,ask Star Trek fans and 99% of them will tell you the TNG is far better than TOS..so what is this about?

[Jan]

As for #1 now thats not right,granted that Star Trek TOS was a landmark as a scifi show,but it never had deep stories or characters,i never watched TOS after i saw it the first time when i was a kid,i can't watch it,ask Star Trek fans and 99% of them will tell you the TNG is far better than TOS..so what is this about?

Perhaps this is one of those 'you had to be there' things. TOS was lauded far and wide for meaningful stories...at least as deep as were allowed back then. For example, TOS struck at racial prejudice from several angles and the morality of war from a few more.

Given that this was in the era when the standard was 'Green Acres' and 'The Brady Bunch', I'd say that was pretty good.

Jan

[Ranger1]

Shhhh B5 should have won

[cornholio1980]

As for #1 now thats not right,granted that Star Trek TOS was a landmark as a scifi show,

indeed

but it never had deep stories or characters,

I may be able to understand your opinion concerning the characters (even if there've been far more shallow charakters than Bones, Spock and especially Kirk) but definitely not concerning the stories. I loved TOS as a kid, and I still love it today. There really are some fabulous (and also quite deep - at least for those times) stories in there that rose some interesting questions, like "Where no man has gone before", "The Enemy Within", "A Taste of Armageddon", "City on the Edge of Forever", "Mirror, Mirror", "Let that Be Your Last Battlefield" and so on. Mind you, those are not necessarily my favourite episodes, but rather those that I consider having quite "deep" stories. The number of episodes that "just" present a fascinating idea is much higher...

i never watched TOS after i saw it the first time when i was a kid

Well, that would certainly explain your opinion. If you're able to see behind those outdated effects and the cheap look in general, you should consider giving it another try. Sure, it's no B5 and one of those typical bottle-shows where you press the reset-button with every single episode, but there are some really nice stories in there...

ask Star Trek fans and 99% of them will tell you the TNG is far better than TOS

While I admit that the majority of Star Trek-Fans would vote in favor of TNG when asked about their favorite ST-show, 99 % seems vastly exaggerated.

[Harrdy]

I'm spoiled... I loved ST:TOS as a kid, and I watched Season 1 on DVD one or two months ago... it seemed kind of strange, somewhere in between "seen that" and "what did I like about *that* one". Granted, the storys where huge when the series was aired, but nowadays they are kind of shallow, especially compared to e.g. Babylon 5

If I had to judge ST:TOS in regard to it's time it would surely be #1 (even before Babylon 5, because ST:TOS did groundbraking things back then), if I would judge as a all time favorite it would be much lower...

PeAcE

[Ranger1]

If I had to judge ST:TOS in regard to it's time it would surely be #1 (even before Babylon 5, because ST:TOS did groundbraking things back then), if I would judge as a all time favorite it would be much lower...

PeAcE

Exactly the way im thinking.

Btw,no one mentioned Battlestar Galactica being on #2,how can you judge a series whille its still going?

Xena on #12....huh? since when Xena was a sci-fi show? LOL

Farscape nowhere to be seen,thats a shame,i would give it at least #10-15!

[Jan]

Btw,no one mentioned Battlestar Galactica being on #2,how can you judge a series whille its still going?

How not? Oh, you can't judge anything but potential in the first few episodes (Crusade, Firefly), but BSG has had a season and a half worth of episodes with no real clunkers. I think we've got enough to be able to judge more than just the potential by now. For now, I have no problem with it at least in a tie with B5.

Xena on #12....huh? since when Xena was a sci-fi show? LOL

A better term would probably have been 'Genre shows' but I don't think most people even understand that. I only flipped through the list quickly but there were some horror shows on there, too, as I recall.

Jan

[Towelmaster]

What I like about that list is, that number 1 TOS was a dead giveaway. And I agree because of what it started on tv.

Then there is number 2; BSG the new revolutionized version. Firstly, I think, because it is a recent series and secondly because I understand it has been very well received.

If you take BSG as the exception, all first series were hugely popular and made truckloads of big big BIG money.

And then there is B5, at the time struggling to survive. The little show that could... A perfect link to TOS I would say...

Joe = "Gene, the Next Generation"?

[Laiden]

BATMAN, SUPERMAN AND WONDER WOMAN ARE COMICS!!!

And I still dont consider Fantasy a Sci-Fi show by any means

Frakkin buffy . . .

And ATLANTIS is on there? I would understand it being down in the bottom feeders . . . at least it didnt do as well as ANDROMEDA

WTH MAN! VOYAGER gets a spot, but DS9 is no where to be found? THAT IS JUST SAD . . .

3rd Rock From the Sun is a SIT-COM!!! although sci-fi in a way . . .

Where is Farscape?

The only list that made sense to me was the TOP 10! ok not COMPLETELY, but we all know BABYLON 5 is #1 in our hearts

Jeepers . . .

[Ranger1]

The only thing that really missing from there is Farscape no doubt..with Voyager i have no problems,i loved that show and hate DS9,but no need to start a topic again on which one is better hehehehe

[DGTWoodward]

ask Star Trek fans and 99% of them will tell you the TNG is far better than TOS..so what is this about?

I suppose then that I must be among the glorious 1% that (quite wisely) actually recoginsed TNG as the slow, ponderous, contrived, pretentious, meandering, pointless, storyless, hopeless bullshit that it really was.

And how come it really took 3 years to get up to speed? ARE YOU SERIOUS!!!!? Most shows have to get up-and-running around or BEFORE the mid-season mark, so as to avoid the dreaded mid-season cancellation. An excellent example of this is our own B5 which showed a really strong upswing in story strength in the 2nd half of the 1st season. That's how you make a TV show...not spouting out loads of pointless technical mumbo-jumbo bullshit in the vain hopes that some folks might accidently mistake that for the story!

Can of worms anyone?

[Jan]

Can of worms anyone?

No kidding!

Actually, I wondered when it was that the percentage came to Trek fandom in the first place. I've noticed that most generally like whichever they watched first.

I liked Next Generation. After that, the characters just never grabbed me.

Jan

[SpooRancher]

Star Trek the Original Series: first real space camp for adults. Not the bizzare Outer Limits or Twilight Zone type, which was a journey into the mind, but an actual journey into space that was unencumbered by annoying children and robots.

Star Trek: The Next Generation: Gene Roddenberry brings his humanistic version of the future into full bloom, with leadership by committee, committee meetings before action, and religion is a BAD thing.

And you think the NextGen was better? The special effects were better, and the acting was far less campy, but the spirit of the original was far better.

That's my not so humble opinion. Your mileage may vary.