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**manwithnoname** · 06-01-2006, 08:26 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew_Swallow
Yes. These days blacks are allowed to buy guns. I like problems that solve themselves.

Here's a great example right here. Sounds pretty racist to me.

I am not trying to be funny here. I feel the moderators here should allow people to say what they feel and think, while being respectful to others. So, even though Andrew_Swallow is racist, I'm glad he posted what he posted; I'd rather know what someone thinks unfiltered than have them lie about their true feelings.

Andrew_Swallow, if you're reading this, what religion do you claim? What political party do you register with? I'm actually quite interested, seriously.

**Jan** · 06-01-2006, 08:56 AM

Originally posted by manwithnoname

I feel the moderators here should allow people to say what they feel and think, while being respectful to others.

Which I think most people here realize is how I try to balance things. If/when things tip over into hate speach or personal attacks/namecalling, then I have to edit but I try to keep it to the absolute minimum, only editing single words if possible. If I'm not pretty sure, I err on the side of not editing.

Gotta tell you, I've enjoyed this latest conversation a lot.

Jan
semi-wearing the moderator hat

**manwithnoname** · 06-01-2006, 09:01 AM

Originally posted by Jan

Gotta tell you, I've enjoyed this latest conversation a lot.

Jan
semi-wearing the moderator hat

Cool beans.

Since this is the religion thread, I'm not referring to magic beans, since some Christians think magic is of the Devil.

**Dr Maturin** · 06-01-2006, 11:10 AM

Originally posted by manwithnoname

You have to be specific: moderate Republican, moderate conservative Republican, moderate fundamentalist ("The Ten Commandments should be law in America") Christian, moderate fiscal-conservative Republican, moderate social conservative Republican, etc.

When there is no modifier, it should be assumed that I was referring to "across the board."

No offense, Z'Dweller, but your posts come off as very right wing

Good.

(my perception).

Your perception does not need checking. That's always a good thing.

Labelling everybody here as "pretty leftist" is very narrow-minded.

If narrow-minded means aptly describing something that my equally apt senses perceive, then yes.

I consider myself a centrist, neither Demo or Repub b/c I believe many bad ideas/policies AND good ideas/policies come from both sides. Career policticians are another story; they're a mixed bag: often hard to find a good one; they are, generally, more interested in maintaining their seat of power and building influence with special-interest groups than helping present Americans and future Americans (kids). For instance, Social Security, Federal deficit, taxes (putiing more of the tax burden on average Americans every year, while corporations make more money -- every year), and the list goes on. Both political parties use the same tactics, they just claim a different tribe.

But they usually have different goals, regardless of their tactics to stay in office. Your statement above about corporations and average Americans is leftist, cut and dry. Sorry if you dislike how I apply a description to your view on that particular topic. I am just about the perfect definition of an average American and the recent tax cuts have done nothing but good for me, and the economy overall.

Don't get me wrong...I think most members of Congress are scumbags. That being said, I still have a preference for those who support and occasionally achieve that which I desire, such as the tax cuts.

Personally, I don't like what Congress is doing or has done. They vote for bills every year that includes wasteful spending, and then later cry about lack of money. Anybody ever hear about the famous Alaskan Bridge to Nowhere project? Millions and millions of dollars have been spent every year on this ridiculous project serving, literally, a handful of people.

And this is something that Republicans have been bitching about for years, and continue to do so. It's curious how liberals now jump on the bandwagon since there is a Republican majority.

Tom Brokaw used to have the "Fleecing of America" portion on his show (when he was alive, of course).

Mr. Brokaw is alive and well.

Anybody remember that? For those in other countries and those that don't recall, it highlighted wasteful government spending.

I'd love to see it so that I could dismantle it.

Now, back on topic: Religion thread (straddling political thread)
While everybody has made valid points for and against the legislation regarding freedom of speech, specifically against this "church," everybody has also made invalid points for and against this legislative action by Congress.

The newspaper reported: The law indicates the "church" group can still protest, BUT there now is a 300 feet buffer zone. They can still scream (or whisper) into their bullhorns/microphone-amp system or use the old-fashioned vocal cords to spread their "gospel."

IMO, freedom of speech is still maintained. And, equally important, people can bury their loved ones in, relative, peace.

I'd like to make that buffer zone fifty miles. THERE IS NO FIRST AMENDMENT VIOLATION HERE. Nobody is stopping these people from saying what they want to say. That's the bottom line.

Thanks for your words of sanity on this subject, MWNM.

**Karachi Vyce** · 06-01-2006, 11:37 AM

I think Andrew Swallow made a pretty decent cringe humor joke.

**Andrew_Swallow** · 06-01-2006, 12:39 PM

Originally posted by manwithnoname

Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew_Swallow
Yes. These days blacks are allowed to buy guns. I like problems that solve themselves.

Here's a great example right here. Sounds pretty racist to me.

That was not racist, it was anti-KKK.

One of the civil rights that persons of color gained in the twentieth centry was the right to buy guns. Prior to that it had been restricted to whites. The KKK did not believe in fighting fair.

**manwithnoname** · 06-01-2006, 01:57 PM