Battlestar Galactica TV show

[Dauriel]

I am really enjoying this show. The premise may not be a new one, but each episode is well written. I look forward to each episode and see how each character develops. I get the feeling that anything can happen to anyone on this show. I can't wait to see how things develop with Baltar. The first season has been wonderful so far. I hope the momentum continues!

[Dr Maturin]

<<Congrats to Ron Moore! Just goes to show what a person can do once they don't have Dickhead Berman standing over his their shoulder.>>

Like the great job he did on DS9, where Fuckface Berman wasn't looking over his shoulder.

<<Oh wait,yes i did,its 8 post above you Z>>

Ani Mitzta'er.

[Ranger1]

I find it a bit weird that the show itself was first to air outside the U.S,and now the DVD is out as PAL.

Its a well known fact that the best sales of DVD's (american shows to be more specific) are the strongest in the U.S,is this some sort of a new strategy to lower down the piracy?

<<Oh wait,yes i did,its 8 post above you Z>>

Ani Mitzta'er.

LOL,nothing to it

[colonyearth]

<<Congrats to Ron Moore! Just goes to show what a person can do once they don't have Dickhead Berman standing over his their shoulder.>>

Like the great job he did on DS9, where Fuckface Berman wasn't looking over his shoulder.

Not true. Berman has had final say and "his hands in" all things Trek up until this last season of ENTERPRISE, where it appears he's had a lot less power.

Berman was always looking over Moore's shoulder and demanding bad story ideas and changes be incorporated.

As for the final ep. of ENTERPRISE, apparently the cast, especially T'Pol is being verbal against the horrid ending to the show that was written by none other than the original twin idiots...Berman and Braga. She says it's terrible, they ruined everything Coto had started to fix and do right.

I can't see Berman gone from Trek soon enough.

Thank god, Moore got out from under him. BSG is wonderful!

CE

[Dr Maturin]

Not true. Berman has had final say and "his hands in" all things Trek up until this last season of ENTERPRISE, where it appears he's had a lot less power.

Berman was always looking over Moore's shoulder and demanding bad story ideas and changes be incorporated.

As for the final ep. of ENTERPRISE, apparently the cast, especially T'Pol is being verbal against the horrid ending to the show that was written by none other than the original twin idiots...Berman and Braga. She says it's terrible, they ruined everything Coto had started to fix and do right.

I can't see Berman gone from Trek soon enough.

Thank god, Moore got out from under him. BSG is wonderful!

Berman had little to do with DS9, despite the EP credit, after the second season or so.

Let's take a look at his track record:

(story) (episode 4.12 "Paradise Lost")
(teleplay) (episode 3.01 "Search: Part 1, The")
(teleplay) (episode 3.03 "House of Quark, The")
(teleplay) (episode 3.13 "Life Support")
(teleplay) (episode 4.06 "Rejoined")
(teleplay) (episode 4.10 "Our Man Bashir")
(teleplay) (episode 4.18 "Rules of Engagement")
(teleplay) (episode 4.22 "For the Cause")
(teleplay) (episode 5.06 "Trials and Tribble-ations")
(teleplay) (episode 5.11 "Darkness and the Light, The")
(teleplay) (episode 5.16 "Doctor Bashir, I Presume")
(teleplay) (episode 5.25 "In the Cards")
(teleplay) (episode 6.25 "Sound of Her Voice, The")
(teleplay) (episode 7.10 "It's Only a Paper Moon")
(teleplay) (episode 7.24 "Dogs of War, The")
(writer) (episode 3.09 "Defiant")
(writer) (episode 3.21 "Die is Cast, The")
(writer) (episode 4.15 "Sons of Mogh")
(writer) (episode 5.03 "Looking for Par'mach in All the Wrong Places")
(writer) (episode 5.21 "Soldiers of the Empire")
(writer) (episode 6.02 "Rocks and Shoals")
(writer) (episode 6.07 "You are Cordially Invited")
(writer) (episode 6.11 "Waltz")
(writer) (episode 6.16 "Change of Heart")
(writer) (episode 6.22 "Valiant")
(writer) (episode 7.04 "Take Me Out to the Holosuite")
(writer) (episode 7.07 "Once More Unto the Breach")
(writer) (episode 7.16 "Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges")
(writer) (episode 7.19 "Strange Bedfellows")
(writer) (episode 7.22 "Tacking into the Wind")

Some of the best DS9 and STU eps are above. Sure, there are a few stinkers, but nobody is perfect.

[modernmajorgeneral]

Very sad that B&B, the Chucklehead Twins, get the last word on Trek for the next three years.

[colonyearth]

From the leaks I've read about the final episode, it's going to be horrid.

SPOILERS:








































They supposedly jump 6 years into the future where the ENTERPRISE (a relatively brand new ship) is being decommissioned and the Federation is forming or some such major timeline blunder. Even Frakes and Sirtis are supposed to guest star. How the hell are they going to be in it?!

Can't this cast even get its own farewell? Done right?! Without some other TNG people having to get involved? After the crap they've been through, I'd say they deserved a rockin' great send-off all to themselves.

Looks like another Voyager ending.

So...I'm guessing we jump into the future where we learn that the whole series was just Riker and Troi telling the story of the first Enterprise to their kids. My god, that's really what I'm expecting.


On the other hand, though I still am not convinced another film will actually happen right now, I am intrigued by what I've read in interviews with Jendrenson, the man who created and wrote the script for ST XI. He has some radical ideas and praises Coto, TOS, and Meyer, claiming that he will remain very true to what has been established and the spirit of what the afore mentioned group has set up. If left to his own devices and if the dundernamic duo of B&B are kept clear, then it might just turn out to be something decent if not good.

I did note that he seemed to go out of his way to avoid the name Rick Berman in his interview, instead using such terms as "the executives at Paramount." Whether this means Berman is only involved as a name or that he's being pushed out (we can only hope!) is unclear.

I will still only believe that Paramount is willing to make a new film when I see the cast list and that they've named a director and are starting production.

Until then, I'll have to also bite the bullet on waiting for the new seasons of SG-1, ATLANTIS, and BSG (the finale is this Friday and I can't wait!).

CE

[Dr Maturin]

<<They supposedly jump 6 years into the future where the ENTERPRISE (a relatively brand new ship) is being decommissioned and the Federation is forming or some such major timeline blunder. Even Frakes and Sirtis are supposed to guest star. How the hell are they going to be in it?!>>

The time is right. The UFP was formed in 2161. The major blunder of ENT is the fact that the Klingons are not only contacted but are encountered frequently. I believe before ENT debuted, the first contact date with them was in 2218.

Also, I highly doubt that Frakes and Sirtis will play the roles that made them famous. Unless this has been confirmed?

[Ranger1]

Also, I highly doubt that Frakes and Sirtis will play the roles that made them famous. Unless this has been confirmed?

http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/series/ENT/episode/9655.html

Check Guest Cast

[AaronB]

Until then, I'll have to also bite the bullet on waiting for the new seasons of SG-1, ATLANTIS, and BSG (the finale is this Friday and I can't wait!).

CE

To tide you over, gateworld has info on some of next season's episode. Even a few about season 2 of BSG.

[AaronB]

http://www.startrek.com/startrek/vie...sode/9655.html
Check Guest Cast

Did anyone hear that Shatner had pitched a new movie featuring Kirk, Spock et al as teens? Aparently, he went over Berman's head to pitch his idea to Paramount execs. I think I saw it on slashdot...

[colonyearth]

<<They supposedly jump 6 years into the future where the ENTERPRISE (a relatively brand new ship) is being decommissioned and the Federation is forming or some such major timeline blunder. Even Frakes and Sirtis are supposed to guest star. How the hell are they going to be in it?!>>

The time is right. The UFP was formed in 2161. The major blunder of ENT is the fact that the Klingons are not only contacted but are encountered frequently. I believe before ENT debuted, the first contact date with them was in 2218.

Also, I highly doubt that Frakes and Sirtis will play the roles that made them famous. Unless this has been confirmed?

Yes, confirmed about their appearances, not sure about characters, though it screams of a Berman and Braga stunt.

Yes, you are right about the timing of the Federation formation. Unfortunately, that is not what I was referring to. The wrong time for encountering the Klingons was one of the first signs that this show wasn't going to give a hoot about continuity...it went downhill from there.

Coto was trying to repair the damage as best he could and was doing a wonderful job. Unfortunately, again, from everything I've read, B&B have pretty much destroyed that effort in the last episode, just as they have destroyed TREK.

The idea of the formation of the Federation not being played out correctly, would arise from the fact that we will have skipped over the Romulan War completely (a wonderfully untapped story)...unless they say it hasn't happened yet, which I wouldn't be surprised by, since B&B ignore continuity whenever they choose to.

No...word is that the new ST XI script (still not greenlighted) is about some aspect of the formation of the Federation, but is set 20 yrs after ENTERPRISE...that is what I was referring to. Sorry I wasn't more specific.

If they don't get B&B out of the picture, the timeline will be so badly muddled that no amount of imagination will be able to save it.

CE

[Radhil]

If they don't get B&B out of the picture, the timeline will be so badly muddled that no amount of imagination will be able to save it.

They'll just throw John DeLancie into it somehow and have it magically re-arranged.

Oh, wait, that is no imagination.

[Jan]

You know...at the risk of being a pain, maybe ST could be discussed in a Star Trek thread? I can split it off if you like?

Jan

[jal]

how about just deleting all references to trek?