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  • Looney
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    Well it only brought in $103 million over the four day holiday weekend in the States. They were projection $130-$150 million. The shame is that I think this movie suffered from problems it didn't deserve and bad choices. I think maybe the trailers revealed things that upset fans with concepts that didn't actually end up being an issue in the movie. I think it also suffered from the fact that by and large many people didn't love The Last Jedi (2017). They are trying to blame the fact that it came out so soon after Last Jedi, but that argument seems VERY flawed. I mean what Star Wars fan would say, "I'm not seeing this because I want my Star Wars fix just once a year." That is ridiculous. If the material is good then the fans would want as much as they could get. I mean who on this board wouldn't take something new from Babylon 5 everyday as long as the material was still quality material, and/or slightly sub-standard material as well.

    I think their biggest roadblock was that the concept was flawed because it was a young Han Solo movie, but when the world first met Han Solo he was pretty young. Couple that with the casting of an actor who didn't much resemble the original Han Solo and people just didn't care that much. I know people wanted to see a story about Han Solo pre-Luke and Leia, but Harrison Ford is Han Solo and that is who they wanted more than just seeing the story. It is a real shame because the movie was very entertaining and really the Han Solo aspect of it was fine. Alden Ehrenreich wasn't a revelation as Han Solo, but he was good and he got the job done. Other aspects, like Lando and Chewy, were awesome.

    The good news is that this movie can pick up steam. There isn't a big blockbuster opening this week so maybe they will have a really good second weekend once word of mouth starts to spread. And they'll need it as I just found out they originally contracted Ehrenreich to play Han Solo in three movies. So if this movie doesn't pick up steam then the sequels will be canceled.

    SIDE NOTE: The guys who were originally directing this movie were replaced because they were taking too long to get it done. Disney targeted this date as the date of release and those two were not going to make that deadline. Funny thing is that I do think this movie suffered from the fact it came out one week after Deadpool 2 and three weeks after Averngers: Infinity War. I'm sure several Disney Honchos are thinking they should have picked a weekend further away from those two movies.

    And finally this better not put a halt to the Obi-Wan movie with Ewan McGregor.
    Last edited by Looney; 05-28-2018, 05:29 PM.

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  • sarthaz
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    Lando is definitely the best part of this film for me.

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  • Looney
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    Originally posted by sarthaz View Post
    This review captures my feelings: "Solo is fun, flawed and ultimately forgettable. It's an amiable popcorn adventure... and sometimes that's all you need." It's fine. I didn't hate it. Laughed at a couple parts. Rolled my eyes at others. Ultimately, I had no investment in the characters, and that's where it was weakest. All the actors did a fine job, and there's nothing egregiously wrong with it, but I didn't really care what happened to anyone -- which is really what you'd expect from a Ron Howard film: competent but uninspired.
    Interesting. I agree with the assessment of Howard's work, "competent but uninspired." I think the odd thing is that you said you had "no investment in the characters." I guess I have to say I didn't really either, but I also look at that from the angle of this being a prequel. We know where a good portion of the characters are already headed, so I feel like that is why I wasn't emotionally invested in what was going on with them. I will admit that characters who are not already well established in the Star Wars Universe didn't manage to connect with me very much. That might just be because I've seen far too many movies. It is really tough for a movie of this ilk to surprise me. It becomes pretty predictable who will likely live and who will likely not. I don't think that is a failing on Howard or the actor's parts. I think it just becomes an inevitable cascade of events. The real question is what would someone seeing this movie think if they had never seen any other Star Wars movie and weren't really familiar with the franchise?

    Anyway, I think there is something inspired in this movie and that is that I was genuinely.....

    entranced by how Donald Glover gave me exactly what I thought younger Lando Calrissian might be like. That was the second best part of the movie. The best part of the movie was that Chewbacca was a character. I felt The Force Awakens (2015) was able to establish Chewbacca as more of a character and not a gimmick. The Last Jedi (2017) really dropped that ball. Now this movie re-established him as a central figure with depth and character.


    If it weren't for the two factors I mentioned in the spoiler above I would agree with sarthaz assessment of this being "fun, flawed and ultimately forgettable." It definitely has some flaws - especially in the first several minutes. It is definitely fun. And if it weren't for several things that I LOVED I could probably forget it.

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  • sarthaz
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    This review captures my feelings: "Solo is fun, flawed and ultimately forgettable. It's an amiable popcorn adventure... and sometimes that's all you need." It's fine. I didn't hate it. Laughed at a couple parts. Rolled my eyes at others. Ultimately, I had no investment in the characters, and that's where it was weakest. All the actors did a fine job, and there's nothing egregiously wrong with it, but I didn't really care what happened to anyone -- which is really what you'd expect from a Ron Howard film: competent but uninspired.

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  • Looney
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    Originally posted by Jan View Post
    Is it fun? For a Solo movie, that's all I'd really ask for.
    I had a LOT of fun. I won't lie, the first half an hour just didn't quite do it for me, but then it picked up. My personal opinion is that the Han character is the weakest character, but I thought Alden Ehrenreich did a pretty decent job of capturing the essence of the character. He just didn't really capture my attention that much. It is interesting because I would LOVE to somehow see a sequel to this, but maybe not with Han as the focal point. It is hard to explain without spoiling. I can't wait until more people have seen it and are ready to discuss because there is a lot to discuss. I feel the movie will definitely diffuse some controversy with viewers and also ignited some controversy with viewers. I have a cousin who is a DIE HARD Star Wars fan and she was pleasantly surprised. She didn't love it and there are some things she hated, but overall she was pleasantly surprised.

    Compare and Contrast:

    I think Rogue One is a better movie, but there are aspects of this movie that I LOVED seeing more than seeing Rogue One as a whole - if that makes sense.

    My one issue with this movie is placing it in the timeline. I feel it must be taking place, give or take, 10 years after Revenge of The Sith and, give or take, 10 years prior to A New Hope. Whenever it takes place it is obviously meant to be a prequel to Rogue One. So I assume the next "A Star Wars Story" will be a prequel to this. SO the "A Star Wars Story" line of movies can continue going back in time, which means with enough movies we can go back prior to The Phantom Menace to the time of Knights of The Old Republic. It also means they can do a movie that explains when the Jedi made their two biggest mistakes. First they were tricked into thinking the Force comes from cells in the body. Second they never learned that for the sake of the franchise they should run from every Gungan they encounter.

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  • Jan
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    Originally posted by Looney View Post
    Well I saw it and I have to say after the first half hour or so I loved every minute. I'm sure there will be lots of debate now that it is out there, but I think reasonable people will be pleasantly surprised. I felt it got off to a pretty rough start, but then I felt it picked up and there were many good payoffs.

    So I feel Ron Howard got the job done.
    Is it fun? For a Solo movie, that's all I'd really ask for.

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  • Ubik
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    Originally posted by Looney View Post
    Well I saw it and I have to say after the first half hour or so I loved every minute. I'm sure there will be lots of debate now that it is out there, but I think reasonable people will be pleasantly surprised. I felt it got off to a pretty rough start, but then I felt it picked up and there were many good payoffs.

    So I feel Ron Howard got the job done.
    Good to hear. I still think Rogue One is the best of the new SW films, so had hopes this would be another stand alone to buck the trend a bit.

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  • Looney
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    Well I saw it and I have to say after the first half hour or so I loved every minute. I'm sure there will be lots of debate now that it is out there, but I think reasonable people will be pleasantly surprised. I felt it got off to a pretty rough start, but then I felt it picked up and there were many good payoffs.

    So I feel Ron Howard got the job done.

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  • Ubik
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    Originally posted by Truth66 View Post
    Yeah you're not kiddin. I wonder how many B5 Universe related movies would have been made by now, if Disney owned the rights to Babylon 5.
    Hmmm. Sadly, I doubt it. B5 has nowhere near the following Star Wars has. Sadly we are a cult phenomenon with a relatively small fanbase. The numbers don't add up for any studio. Even the Blade Runner sequel suffered at the box office because large swathes of younger view had no idea what it was.

    However, with everything being re-booted or re-made to within an inch of it's life, I a kinda surprised B5 hasn't been unearthed.

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  • Truth66
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    Originally posted by B5-Stefan View Post
    A dozen more Star Wars movies and no Babylon 5 movie on the horizon.
    Sorry, but what a crazy world!
    Yeah you're not kiddin. I wonder how many B5 Universe related movies would have been made by now, if Disney owned the rights to Babylon 5.

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  • B5-Stefan
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    Originally posted by Truth66 View Post
    I... Disney will try and make at least a dozen more Star Wars movies....
    A dozen more Star Wars movies and no Babylon 5 movie on the horizon.
    Sorry, but what a crazy world!

    B5-Stefan


    --
    President Clark to Ivanova: "Your commanding officer, Commander Sinclair, will not returning to Babylon5. He is being reassigned. Permanently."
    [Points of Departure - filmed but not published]

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  • Truth66
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    Interesting thoughts about a Vader Movie.

    With the announcement that the creators of Games of Thrones now producing a few Star Wars Movies, I guess anything is possible.

    http://www.starwars.com/video/got-cr...aser-reactions

    It's obvious that Disney is going to try and milk every dime they can out of the Star Wars Universe like Luke did with the Thala-Siren.

    Since there's been 26 James Bond Movies, I guess we can guarantee that Disney will try and make at least a dozen more Star Wars movies after Episode 9.

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  • Looney
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    As I have said, I am not very thrilled to see this film. I am interested enough that I won't be watching the trailer because I do have to see it, if just for the fact that everyone I know will see it.

    I TOTALLY agree on the Vader film and is it possible that it will eventually be a reality?

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  • Ubik
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    Originally posted by Truth66 View Post
    I'm sure that many people here have seen the first trailer for the Han Solo Film. If not here it is:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTcaMjraJUY

    I'm not sure what anyone else thinks, but my first thoughts were that it seems a bit like Blade Runner, meets the first reboot of the Star Trek films. Also, I'm not sure about anyone else, but seeing the Millennium Falcon in almost pristine condition and not the "Piece of Junk" that we've all come to know is going to take a bit of getting used to.
    Looks okay. Hope it's cut form the same cloth as Rogue One, which has been by far the best of the batch where the new films are concerned. I think these spin-offs are slightly less weighed down and have more room to be their own thing.

    My friend and I were talking the other day about how utterly awesome the closing Vader scene from Rogue One is (that was a reshoot scene btw!), it really had that 'hell yes', moment when Vader just rips through the Rebel forces with such brutality.

    We both agreed they could totally make a Vader film that chronicles the hunting down of the remaining Jedi, perhaps get Liam Neeson back and give him a shot at being in a good Star Wars film. There have been rumblings around him making a return to the SW film universe.
    Last edited by Ubik; 02-07-2018, 08:08 AM.

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  • Truth66
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    I'm sure that many people here have seen the first trailer for the Han Solo Film. If not here it is:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTcaMjraJUY

    I'm not sure what anyone else thinks, but my first thoughts were that it seems a bit like Blade Runner, meets the first reboot of the Star Trek films. Also, I'm not sure about anyone else, but seeing the Millennium Falcon in almost pristine condition and not the "Piece of Junk" that we've all come to know is going to take a bit of getting used to.

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