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    Saveandromeda.com

    Taken from http://saveandromeda.com/campaign.htm

    "The Save Andromeda Campaign has been organized to show support for the series and to encourage the SciFi Channel and Tribune Entertainment to continue the series after Mr. Sorbo leaves. The concept of a commander being replaced has a precedent in the science fiction world. Bruce Boxleitner replaced Michael O'Hare as commander of the space station in the excellent series Babylon 5. Richard Dean Anderson replaced Don S. Davis as the leader of Stargate Command on SciFi's very own series Stargate SG-1. And in the real world, Navy ships continue in the fleet, but their Captains turn over the responsibility for the ship to a new Captain in a formal Change of Command ceremony. We would like to suggest that when Captain Dylan Hunt leaves Andromeda to engage in other pursuits, the Commonwealth would be better off replacing him with another captain and having the ship continue its mission rather than consigning the entire ship and crew to the junk heap."

    Ok I am a fan of Babylon 5 more than Andromeda, I do like both series, so I am not against anything, I just wanted to clarify something, and please correct me if I am wrong.

    Didn't JMS Plan on reassigning Sinclair and have Sheridan come in at the beginning of season 2? I mean didn't he have that portion of the story planned?
    "It is said that the future is always born in pain. The history of war is the history of pain. If we are wise, what is born of that pain matures into the promise of a better world, because we learn that we can no longer afford the mistakes of the past." -- G'Kar in Babylon 5:"In the Beginning"
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    If that show goes down,you will not see any tears from me.
    I saw all the episodes and this is one dumb show (i dont even know why i keep watching it).
    Sleeping in Light-----Darnit! Shut the Window.

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    • #3
      ok . . .

      thanks for the input Ranger one, but that still doesnt answer my question.

      I want to tell the people at saveandromeda.com (pending if it is true), that the replacement of Michael O'Hare was deliberate.
      "It is said that the future is always born in pain. The history of war is the history of pain. If we are wise, what is born of that pain matures into the promise of a better world, because we learn that we can no longer afford the mistakes of the past." -- G'Kar in Babylon 5:"In the Beginning"

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      • #4
        No it wasn't..Babylon 5 was in the right place,at the right time with the right people
        Sleeping in Light-----Darnit! Shut the Window.

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        • #5
          It always seemed pretty clear that JMS intended for Sinclair to become Valen. The big question, which to my knowledge JMS has never answered, is when would that have happened. If it happened at the end, there would have been no need to replace SInclair per se. As far as planning for it to happen at the beggining of Season 2, I think it's pretty clear that JMS did NOT originally plan that. The archive contains many posts from JMS describing the replacement of Sinclair by Sheridan, but essentially he describes it as more of an unanticipated, mutual decision.
          "That was the law, as set down by Valen. Three castes: worker, religious, warrior."

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          • #6
            Re: ok . . .

            Originally posted by Laiden
            I want to tell the people at saveandromeda.com (pending if it is true), that the replacement of Michael O'Hare was deliberate.
            That depends on what you mean by 'deliberate'.

            Yes, it was a change made by both Michael and JMS for the character to be written out, but it was a change made to the show because of issues discovered in its production, not a development planned for from the start.

            Does that help any?

            FP

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            • #7
              Re: Saveandromeda.com

              Originally posted by Laiden
              Ok I am a fan of Babylon 5 more than Andromeda, I do like both series, so I am not against anything, I just wanted to clarify something, and please correct me if I am wrong.

              Didn't JMS Plan on reassigning Sinclair and have Sheridan come in at the beginning of season 2? I mean didn't he have that portion of the story planned?
              The original plan wasn't to replace Sinclair but as the reality of the story evolved, JMS realized that it simply wouldn't be realistic for Sinclair to have both the major connection to the Minbari *and* a major connection to the shadows. If he (JMS) were to just bring in somebody to fulfil the shadow connection role, Sinclair would be relegated to the background as that thread was revealed. At the same time, O'Hare had some misgivings and so he and JMS mutually decided that there would be a new commander but that the Sinclair character could return to tie up his arc with the Minbari.

              A lot of people like to speculate other scenarios but this is what JMS has said.

              Jan
              "As empathy spreads, civilization spreads. As empathy contracts, civilization contracts...as we're seeing now.

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              • #8
                in other words, Michael O'Hare didnt say he was "done" it was an understanding that the story needed a different direction than what was planned. Thanks guys for your help. the statement they make on saveandromeda.com makes it seem like O'Hare Quit, like most actors do, and then was just replaced. my biggest problem is why do you want to "Save" Andromeda? I agree with JMS when he says 5 seasons is perfect for a show in syndication.
                "It is said that the future is always born in pain. The history of war is the history of pain. If we are wise, what is born of that pain matures into the promise of a better world, because we learn that we can no longer afford the mistakes of the past." -- G'Kar in Babylon 5:"In the Beginning"

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                • #9
                  I watched the first few seasons of Andromeda and enjoyed it for the most part. I thought Kevin Sorbo did a reasonable job shaking the image of Hercules and taking the role of Captain Dylan Hunt.

                  I stopped watching the show for about about a year (didn't have time) and when I finally resumed watching it I didn't really get back into it. It seemed like a lot had happened with the characters since I left and the show had gone off in a new direction. Maybe sometime I can catch the season I missed in reruns and then things will make more sense.

                  -DougO

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                  • #10
                    my two cents; andromeda was ok for a couple of seasons, but after that it just turned into a waste of viewing time... it died and i sincerely hope it stays dead.
                    "The trouble with being a cynic is that you eventually get labelled as a highly reliable fortune-teller"

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                    • #11
                      I loved the first 1.5 seasons of Andromeda. Under the original writer/exec. producer/showrunner (Robert Hewlett Wolfe?) it might have even rivaled B5 for interesting characters and complex stories and arcs. Then (I hear) that showrunner was forced out. Suddenly story was secondary to special effects and some episodes actually made no sense at all, imo. After Keith Hamilton Cobb left because he'd become a weapons console button-pusher, I pretty much dropped it.

                      Jan
                      "As empathy spreads, civilization spreads. As empathy contracts, civilization contracts...as we're seeing now.

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                      • #12
                        generally speaking - at first andromeda had some good and new ideas - intelligent ship for instance, but now it's just "heroes don't die" series...

                        i say - Andromeda had dried out....
                        Seek salvation, for the war is here... Deny nothing

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                        • #13
                          MHO...Andromeda! Ptoooey!

                          Bad from the first frame to the last. Goodbye and good riddens! Make room for good SF!

                          CE
                          Anthony Flessas
                          Writer/Producer/Director,
                          SP Pictures


                          I have no avatar! I walk in mystery and need nothing to represent who and what I am!

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                          • #14
                            No big loss
                            Marco

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                            • #15
                              First off, Babylon 5 is the wrong forum to put this in.

                              Second, you're coming to a forum for fans of the writing of JMS and asking us to help save Andromeda. Surely you see the irony here. If you don't, let me put it in plain simple terms ... Babylon 5 = good. Andromeda = painfully bad.

                              Third, are you kidding? The sooner we get rid of that show, the better. It was good the first half-season and went downhill progressively after that. The latest "arc" of killing everybody, transferring them to another universe and bringing them back to life ... just *puke*

                              I still remember Sorbo's comments a few years ago, saying that he wanted to dumb down the show because the viewers didn't like "smart tv". UGH
                              "Jan Schroeder is insane" - J. Michael Straczynski, March 2008

                              The Station: A Babylon 5 Podcast

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