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    I wrote this on Trek BBS, I kind of liked my idea for a new plot for Generations and I just thought I would share it here. I don't think it violates the story ideas ban because it's for a movie already made, Jan will know. For 5 minutes thought, I like my story better, what do you think?


    sonak said "The Nexus was contrived yes, but once you rule out time travel, it's either plot contrivance or a really old Kirk meets up with Picard in the TNG era as your options."

    I replied:

    A much simpler contrivance would be for Kirk to be frozen somehow and revived. I think the Nexus was an idea to hard for them to make into a good idea. A random energy ribbon that causes disruption is a good idea. How about the Enterprise D discovers the ribbon about to threaten a colony in it's path, Veridan 3 if you like, and when Data's plan to dissapate the ribbon works they discover a body that was preserved and brought aboard, it's Captain America er no it's Captain Kirk! He's revived with Dr. Crusher's 24th century medical ability and the strange properties of the ribbon. After a short while, Data detects that the disruption of the ribbon is causing a different type of phenomena which is causing a possible disruption of the fabric of space which will cause a much worse, destructive decomposition of the space in the sector itself. Because Capt. Kirk is saturated in the energy of the ribbon, a way to prevent the formation of the new event is for him to enter it, but it will kill him. The crew of the D struggle valiantly to resolve this by any other means at their disposal, but Kirk resolves to solve this himself when efforts fail, he knocks out everyone but Data who assists him into a shuttle which he then flies into the forming disruption, thus ending the event and saving all the planets in that quadrant. The D holds a ceremony honoring his sacrifice and we go on our way.[/QUOTE]

    If it's bad, just tell me, I'll cry myself to sleep, but I won't mind.
    "And what kind of head of Security would I be if I let people like me know things that I'm not supposed to know? I mean, I know what I know because I have to know it. And if I don't have to know it, I don't tell me, and I don't let anyone else tell me either. " And I can give you reasonable assurances that the head of Security will not report you for doing so."
    "Because you won't tell yourself about it?"

    "I try never to get involved in my own life, too much trouble."

  • #2
    I think this is okay, since it's speculation on existing story.

    'Fraid I don't have much in the way of input, though. I found the last few Trek movies pretty forgettable. Enjoyable enough at the time, they just didn't stick with me.

    Jan
    "As empathy spreads, civilization spreads. As empathy contracts, civilization contracts...as we're seeing now.

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    • #3
      How about adding this TNG crew is in an alternate universe? Where Kirk may have met a different end.
      Kirk's RNA is out of sync with his present location, creating a localized riff that can only be patched by sending him back to his own universe and in true Trek fashion activates the unseen reset button and also puts Kirk back into his own time.

      btw - ever notice before the malfunctioning holo-deck episodes of TNG & Voyager, TOS used time travel, I think Naked Time was the first.

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      • #4
        Speaking of Star Trek, this makes me laugh

        http://jabootu.net/?p=9447

        I don't think I'd bother with the game but spot is funny
        "And what kind of head of Security would I be if I let people like me know things that I'm not supposed to know? I mean, I know what I know because I have to know it. And if I don't have to know it, I don't tell me, and I don't let anyone else tell me either. " And I can give you reasonable assurances that the head of Security will not report you for doing so."
        "Because you won't tell yourself about it?"

        "I try never to get involved in my own life, too much trouble."

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        • #5
          That sounds better than Generations but IÆm afraid thatÆs not saying much. Generations was awful. A total waste of having Picard and Kirk together, not to mention Malcolm McDowellÆs talents.
          "You don't like it here, do you? You'd rather you were back in your quarters, asleep, dreaming dreams of glory."

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Sebastian View Post
            That sounds better than Generations but IÆm afraid thatÆs not saying much. Generations was awful. A total waste of having Picard and Kirk together, not to mention Malcolm McDowellÆs talents.
            Could have been worse, could have been Roddy McDowall

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            • #7
              LOL! I phrased that poorly as I actually like Malcolm. I meant that his talents were wasted on that story. He could have made a great bad guy but Dr. Soren was pretty meh as far as memorable villains go. His recurring character on the Mentalist is better.
              "You don't like it here, do you? You'd rather you were back in your quarters, asleep, dreaming dreams of glory."

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              • #8
                Originally posted by DaveNarn View Post
                Could have been worse, could have been Roddy McDowall
                Hey! I always liked Roddy McDowell and I have no doubt he could pull off a wonderful villain if given the opportunity.
                "That was the law, as set down by Valen. Three castes: worker, religious, warrior."

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by WorkerCaste View Post
                  Hey! I always liked Roddy McDowell and I have no doubt he could pull off a wonderful villain if given the opportunity.
                  No offense meant, Roddy McDowall was a fine actor. I believe he was often typecast as go-to-villain, RIP.

                  Malcolm too is a better actor than his role.

                  The idea behind the Generations was intriguing, the final result just looked like a two-part episode of TNG.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by DaveNarn View Post
                    No offense meant, Roddy McDowall was a fine actor. I believe he was often typecast as go-to-villain, RIP.
                    When he wasn't a chimpanzee, you mean.


                    Ceasar, Cornelius, and Galen, oh my!
                    "And what kind of head of Security would I be if I let people like me know things that I'm not supposed to know? I mean, I know what I know because I have to know it. And if I don't have to know it, I don't tell me, and I don't let anyone else tell me either. " And I can give you reasonable assurances that the head of Security will not report you for doing so."
                    "Because you won't tell yourself about it?"

                    "I try never to get involved in my own life, too much trouble."

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Marsden View Post
                      When he wasn't a chimpanzee, you mean.


                      Ceasar, Cornelius, and Galen, oh my!
                      I personally liked him as Bullwhip Griffin! (especially alongside Suzanne Pleshette )
                      "That was the law, as set down by Valen. Three castes: worker, religious, warrior."

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by WorkerCaste View Post
                        I personally liked him as Bullwhip Griffin! (especially alongside Suzanne Pleshette )
                        Just saw the epic submarine movie 'Run Silent, Run Deep'.
                        Quoted as the inspiration for TOS Balance of Terror.

                        This movie had it all, great cast, great script, and a great director... Robert Wise.

                        For a final role, James T Kirk couldn't have asked for a more heroic demise, solving a mystery and saving his crew!

                        Though due to the switch of roles in the Trek version, he would have been in the shoes of the Romulan commander and the BOP would have been victorious

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by DaveNarn View Post
                          The idea behind the Generations was intriguing, the final result just looked like a two-part episode of TNG.
                          Couldn't agree more. I always find the time travel / re-play trick to be seriously lazy writing. Generations was very guilty of this.
                          Captain John Sheridan: I really *hate* it when you do that.

                          Kosh: Good!

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