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  • #31
    Originally posted by Z'ha'dumDweller
    No...I am just on Gates' side. I like him. I dislike Apple and Mac and always have.
    But have you ever used Macintosh computers?
    An interesting thing to note is that the Microsoft Office apps started life as Mac applications... DOS was not ready for such a graphical interface.
    I started using Macs with System 6... it was much easier to use and understand than Windows, and wasn't limited to 8 character file names...
    I've used Windows 3.1 and subsequent versions. The Mac OS way has always been more logical to me.
    Only until Windows 95 did Microsoft approach the level of development of the Mac OS interface.
    I became quite proficient in Windows too (enough to do basic troubleshooting for friends and coworkers)... but only because I started on a Mac, and had to learn to find and use the equivalent functions, settings and control panels in Windows (when available or not so deeply hidden or badly implemented that they were useless). But figuring out the "logic" behind Windows has always been frustrating compared to how things simply work in MacOS.
    OS X is simply put a great and stable operating system that has had several updates since its introduction... while Longhorn is coming later and later.
    Such... is the respect paid to science that the most absurd opinions may become current, provided they are expressed in language, the sound of which recalls some well-known scientific phrase
    James Clerk Maxwell (1831-79)

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Capt.Montoya
      But have you ever used Macintosh computers?
      An interesting thing to note is that the Microsoft Office apps started life as Mac applications... DOS was not ready for such a graphical interface.
      I started using Macs with System 6... it was much easier to use and understand than Windows, and wasn't limited to 8 character file names...
      I've used Windows 3.1 and subsequent versions. The Mac OS way has always been more logical to me.
      Only until Windows 95 did Microsoft approach the level of development of the Mac OS interface.
      I became quite proficient in Windows too (enough to do basic troubleshooting for friends and coworkers)... but only because I started on a Mac, and had to learn to find and use the equivalent functions, settings and control panels in Windows (when available or not so deeply hidden or badly implemented that they were useless). But figuring out the "logic" behind Windows has always been frustrating compared to how things simply work in MacOS.
      OS X is simply put a great and stable operating system that has had several updates since its introduction... while Longhorn is coming later and later.
      Well, I have always heard bad stuff about Mac and when the Grand Ali JMS says Mac is bad...it MUST be true!

      But honestly...I have been with IBMC's for my whole life (save for a short run in 5th and 6th grades.) I'd have to learn the whole process and stuff.
      Recently, there was a reckoning. It occurred on November 4, 2014 across the United States. Voters, recognizing the failures of the current leadership and fearing their unchecked abuses of power, elected another party as the new majority. This is a first step toward preventing more damage and undoing some of the damage already done. Hopefully, this is as much as will be required.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Z'ha'dumDweller
        But honestly...I have been with IBMC's for my whole life (save for a short run in 5th and 6th grades.) I'd have to learn the whole process and stuff.
        To give yourself an idea about the Mac OS (which really is excellent) and how it would work for you, I suggest that you take a trip to the nearest Apple Store to play with one. That is what I did when I made the switch a little over a year ago.

        In the end it is all about personal choice. If you play with the Mac a bit and are not comfortable, then go with a PC. But to just dismiss the Mac out of hand without even trying it is just short changing yourself.
        ---
        Co-host of The Second Time Around podcast
        www.benedictfamily.org/podcast

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        • #34
          As far as the discussion about the 64 bit processors goes, it boils down to a matter of Speed & Size of programs.

          A 64 bit processor can address more data.

          So, the Programs you run on it can also be Larger.

          What the processor actually DOES with all that data doesn't change.
          Hasn't really changed much in years.

          You word process.
          You play with Graphics.
          You play DOOM.
          You might even balance your checkbook.

          Nope, no new "Killer Apps" in sight.

          So, a 64 bit processor is worth looking for if you are having trouble running progrmas because either the Program or the Data you are using it for are so huge they bog down the computer.

          If things are chugging along just fine (Barring the occasional BSOD ),
          getting a 64 bit processor doesn't confer any advantage.

          Unlerss you just Like having the Latest & Greatest, in which case, Enjoy.

          YMMV

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          • #35
            Nope, no new "Killer Apps" in sight.
            There is one killer application in sight.

            The real time down loading of films and TV programmes. Turning the internet into a proper broadcast medium.

            Failure to get a 3 Meg TV signal down a telephone wire rated as 8 Meg (max) is embarrassing. Saving a tiny picture to disk is not good enough.

            We need computers that can handle the raw modulated signal, the internet protocol, decompress the picture and sound plus handle the computer's display and load speakers. All without a noticeable delay.

            We can do it with sound but not yet with pictures.

            The Internet Service Providers (ISP) will also need to buy new machines to go on their end of the wire.
            Andrew Swallow

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            • #36
              The Internet Service Providers (ISP) will also need to buy new machines to go on their end of the wire.
              Yeah, well, that's the thing. It already took them the better part of five years and a truckload or ten of money to bring current broadband to widespread areas. No provider is going to want to go through that whole thing again unless there's more driving it than TV on demand.

              Despite the Tivo craze, that's not being driven at all. Barely from the consumer end, and other than a few larks, not at all on the distributing end - not until DRM tech settles down a lot more.

              So it's not really in sight. Unless you're talking in decades.
              Radhil Trebors
              Persona Under Construction

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              • #37
                Here's something that'll scare anyone who might occasionally climb on an Airplane:


                21 September 2004
                Microsoft server crash nearly causes 800-plane pile-up

                By Matthew Broersma, Techworld

                A major breakdown in Southern California's air traffic control system last week was partly due to a "design anomaly" in the way Microsoft Windows servers were integrated into the system, according to a report in the Los Angeles Times.

                The radio system shutdown, which lasted more than three hours, left 800 planes in the air without contact to air traffic control, and led to at least five cases where planes came too close to one another, according to comments by the Federal Aviation Administration reported in the LA Times and The New York Times. Air traffic controllers were reduced to using personal mobile phones to pass on warnings to controllers at other facilities, and watched close calls without being able to alert pilots, according to the LA Times report.

                The failure was ultimately down to a combination of human error and a design glitch in the Windows servers brought in over the past three years to replace the radio system's original Unix servers, according to the FAA.

                The servers are timed to shut down after 49.7 days of use in order to prevent a data overload, a union official told the LA Times. To avoid this automatic shutdown, technicians are required to restart the system manually every 30 days. An improperly trained employee failed to reset the system, leading it to shut down without warning, the official said. Backup systems failed because of a software failure, according to a report in The New York Times.
                Rest of the story at:

                Betting your Life on Windoze

                Adds a whole New Dimension to the Blue Screen of Death

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