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    Found this over on the excellent Zocalo Today website. Folks who've been following the B5 script books will be interested to see that much changed and much stayed the same with the original Star Trek, too.:

    Gene Roddenberry's original outline for Trek

    Jan
    "As empathy spreads, civilization spreads. As empathy contracts, civilization contracts...as we're seeing now.

  • #2
    President Capone. Hah!

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Jan View Post
      Found this over on the excellent Zocalo Today website. Folks who've been following the B5 script books will be interested to see that much changed and much stayed the same with the original Star Trek, too.:

      Gene Roddenberry's original outline for Trek

      Jan
      Facinating!

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      • #4
        Wow, Jan! This is GREAT! I love this show! It was my absolute favorite show...until well B5. I still love it. Can't say too much for the spin offs, but the original is well you get it.


        BTW, President Capone is probably "A Piece of the Action".

        The Cage, Charlie X, A Piece of the Action, Mudd's Women, Bread and Circuses. Neat!

        I just love the way people use "quadrant"! Ninth quadrant

        I'm going to say something I've wanted to say a long time, but I thing B5 is the true successor to Star Trek, not it's own spin offs. B5 is so much more, but it's at it's heart an action adventure just like Star Trek. Plus, a lot of people from Star Trek were invovled, not majorly, but they were there.

        Thanks again, Jan! Now I'm sure you're my favorite Moderator.
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        "Because you won't tell yourself about it?"

        "I try never to get involved in my own life, too much trouble."

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        • #5
          A vague bell is ringing in the back of my mind... I think bits of this were quoted (or at least discussed) in the old "Making of 'Star Trek'" book published back in the 1970s.

          I haven't read it in probably over 25 years, but I do recall some of the proposed story titles like "President Capone" and "The Women."

          Has the JMS Star Trek proposal co-written with someone who I have just now blanked on ever popped up online?
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          • #6
            Originally posted by frulad View Post
            Has the JMS Star Trek proposal co-written with someone who I have just now blanked on ever popped up online?
            The Straczynski Star Trek proposal was written with Bryce Zabel (whose tv series Dark Skies was released on DVD just a week or two back) and can be found at the latter's website:

            http://www.brycezabel.com/newsviews/..._out_star.html

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            Back to the subject of the 1964 Trek pitch, does anyone else feel the need to pronounce "The Women" in the same tone that Spock shouted the phrase when Number One and Yeoman Colt vanished from the transporter platform? "The Women!"

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Dan Dassow View Post
              Facinating!
              Thanks, Dan. It needed to be said!

              Originally posted by Marsden View Post
              Thanks again, Jan! Now I'm sure you're my favorite Moderator.
              Aw, shucks, t'warn't nuthin! But thanks for saying so.

              Originally posted by frulad View Post
              Has the JMS Star Trek proposal co-written with someone who I have just now blanked on ever popped up online?
              Oh, yeah. Bryce Zabel posted it himself.
              http://bztv.typepad.com/newsviews/fi...2004Reboot.pdf

              Jan

              ETA: Looks like Jason beat me to it!
              Last edited by Jan; 01-31-2011, 09:22 AM.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by JasonDavis View Post
                Back to the subject of the 1964 Trek pitch, does anyone else feel the need to pronounce "The Women" in the same tone that Spock shouted the phrase when Number One and Yeoman Colt vanished from the transporter platform? "The Women!"
                I think there's a law that says you have to. A few years ago, there was a movie called "The Women" with Bette Midler, Meg Ryan, and others. Whenever someone asked "What movie should we go see?" it was fun to look through the listings and do a Spock "The Women!" answer. For some reason, I never did get to see the movie, not quite sure why.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by JasonDavis View Post
                  Back to the subject of the 1964 Trek pitch, does anyone else feel the need to pronounce "The Women" in the same tone that Spock shouted the phrase when Number One and Yeoman Colt vanished from the transporter platform? "The Women!"
                  Oh, yes. Always.
                  "And what kind of head of Security would I be if I let people like me know things that I'm not supposed to know? I mean, I know what I know because I have to know it. And if I don't have to know it, I don't tell me, and I don't let anyone else tell me either. " And I can give you reasonable assurances that the head of Security will not report you for doing so."
                  "Because you won't tell yourself about it?"

                  "I try never to get involved in my own life, too much trouble."

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                  • #10
                    Ha, Roddenberry's version of the Drake Equation.

                    "The Women!"
                    I love it.

                    One of my more peculiar interests is Pike-era Star Trek. I enjoyed the comic miniseries Star Trek Crew that came out a few years back. There was a Marvel series in the 90s called Early Voyages. There are also several novels, some of them from the 80s. One came out last year called The Children of Kings. I just find "The Cage" to be a fun romp and wonder what ST would have been like under Captain Pike.

                    Peter David came up with an interesting way to bring "Number One" back in his New Frontier novels.

                    Lastly, I like the Pike era because of J.M. Colt (the cute little redheaded yeoman).
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                    • #11
                      Thanks Jason.

                      And good news about Dark Skies. I recall catching the first couple of episodes then missing a bunch an d then just bailing on the series because I was afraid I had missed too much.
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                      • #12
                        I'm late to the party, but this was sooooo cool to read. Thanks for posting!
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Dr Maturin View Post
                          I just...wonder what ST would have been like under Captain Pike.
                          I think it would have been interesting, because if you watch "The Cage", it is amazing just how much like an episode of Next Gen is plays out like.

                          I suspect that it would have been the much more cerebral show that GR wanted to make in the first place..exactly like he did with ST-TMP and Next Gen. In countless interviews, he said that it only had its action content upped in "Where No Man..." because he was given no choice. Basically it was "No action...No show!"

                          As for B5 being its true successor, well I too have believed this for years. The human race in B5 is clearly the same human race as in classic Trek. The human race in Next Gen is an entirley different one, devoid of imperfections and flaws, Roddenberry sadly evolved us too far too quickly.
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