Not enough Sci-Fi?

[David Panzer]

7. No "reset buttons"
8. No flying with one's ass. Have a damn plan.

[Dan Dassow]

Not until I see a signed and notarized statement promising the following:

1. We know what SciFi is, and that it is NOT the same as Fantasy.
2. No Goddamn Vampires, sparkly or otherwise. (Unless a Whedon is involved.)
3. No craptacular Movies of the Week starring mutant sharks, piranhas, octopi, snakes, crocodiles, etc.

Anybody wanna add 4,5,and 6?

4. No cute kids, animals or robots.
5. No genius teenager who saves the others in the nick of time.
6. No military members who relish flaunting authority.

[David Panzer]

For Vampires, I'll stick with the ones by Wellington

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSFFYIg3vAI

13 Bullets, 99 Coffins, Vampire Zero, 23 Hours...Pure awesome.

[KoshN]

I'll pass on the Whedon vampires, but I agree with the rest.

Whedon Vampires (BtVS, Angel) are A-OK. Vampire Diaries and Twilight? Noooooo!

[KoshN]

Apart from what's already been stated about weird behaviour of characters, I'm also not a big fan of remakes.

OK, as promised, he's what I thought of what little I watched of "V" .....

I've recorded all but maybe two or three episodes of "V," and have watched part of maybe two episodes, and it didn't hold my interest to even finish either of those episodes. I don't know if something came up, and I didn't get back to it, but there was no real tug on me getting me back to it. There are some shows that if I start watching an ep., I'll finish it, and if I get interrupted (e.g. get called out to work.), I'm dying to finish it as soon as I get back (e.g. Criminal Minds, True Blood, Castle, The Mentalist, Supernatural, etc.); "V" is not one of those. In "V" it seemed that not much really happened in an episode, like it was overwrought and padded for time, like they didn't really have much of a story to tell, almost like a daytime soap. Maybe "V" is science fiction for the Reality TV crowd.

I like the old version the way it was. I thought the acting and behaviour of the main chars was well enough. Okay, the whole Elisabeth thingy got a little cheesy at the end. But still I liked it...)

I watched all of the old version of "V" back when it first aired, and haven't watched any of it since. I liked it a little more than original Battlestar Galactica, which is to say, not much.

[David Panzer]

I'll pass on the Whedon vampires, but I agree with the rest.

[Doom Shepherd]

A new Sci-Fi cable channel in the works?

Not until I see a signed and notarized statement promising the following:

1. We know what SciFi is, and that it is NOT the same as Fantasy.
2. No Goddamn Vampires, sparkly or otherwise. (Unless a Whedon is involved.)
3. No craptacular Movies of the Week starring mutant sharks, piranhas, octopi, snakes, crocodiles, etc.

Anybody wanna add 4,5,and 6?

[vakie]

A new Sci-Fi cable channel in the works?

Hi friends. All of you should know by now that we've been working over the last couple of years to create a new cable television network. This new network would be for SciFi fans and run by real SciFi fans.

We've been working very hard to come up with a plan that would be attractive and profitable to investors and still create a healthy, sustainable network that would be around for decades to come. We now have that plan. It's going to cost us $60 million to get this network going. Believe it or not, that's a very small amount to start a cable television network and it means we'll have to sacrifice for the first few years. It means very little original programming for the first five years of the network's life in order to keep startup costs low. There are investors out there who like the plan and would like to be a part of something this exciting. We've shown them a plan in which The Syzygy Network can reach profitability in four years.

However, that plan assumes that people will watch the network. The investors have told us that they don't simply want our word that SciFi fans would love to have a new network. They want proof.

Here's how you can be a part of this. We need numbers. Not little numbers...BIG numbers.

DO YOU WANT a new SciFi network???

Then tell people about it. Go to:

http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Sy...36797859680282

Like the page. Tell your friends to like it. Tell them to tell their friends.

Let's make this page a phenomenon on Facebook. I've seen the power of the SciFi fan. I've seen it make Star Trek go another year. It worked again for Star Trek: Enterprise, then again for Jericho. Each of those shows got an extra year after the networks had decided to cancel them. That same power resulted in the browncoats getting Serenity, the theatrical movie out of the ashes of Firefly. I've seen full page ads in Variety to the producers of shows like Earth 2.

I've seen SciFi fans change the world, just as SciFi itself did before them. We are a powerful group of people. We have the power to do this. That power comes in numbers.

Help make the Syzygy Network page one of the biggest, fastest-growing pages on Facebook. With the numbers proving that there's room for a new SciFi network the investors won't have call to say no.

Make your voices heard. Let them know you want a new network that believes in you, that loves you and was created by real fans, not some group of corporate net heads (we know how good their decisions about SciFi shows are!). We understand we need to make a profit to survive, but it's not our only motivation.

Syzygy is not all about the bottom line. It's about you. Help us make it happen.

Thanks!
Dave Andrews
CEO and original founder,
The Syzygy Network

[I love Lyta]

Apart from what's already been stated about weird behaviour of characters, I'm also not a big fan of remakes. I like the old version the way it was. I thought the acting and behaviour of the main chars was well enough. Okay, the whole Elisabeth thingy got a little cheesy at the end. But still I liked it...

abc also canned Legend of the Seeker. So they have a good hand for bad decisions there.

Still I`ll carry on watching what there is, at least there is "Doctor Who"

Season ended last Saturday.

[vakie]

I wouldn't call it pure crap, but the show really does not appear to be written with care. There are giant plot holes in most episodes. Many times the plot depends on one of the characters doing something stupid and out of character. The humans and media of the V universe are extremely stupid and easy to manipulate.

As far as Flash Forward - I found it very interesting, but somehow ABC couldn't market it and the ratings just fell off the edge - on some weeks coming in 6th in its timeslot. Maybe if it had been in the Tuesday night slot it would have done better. There was no chance at all of it being renewed.

What you said about V applied very well to FF too. Sometimes the writing was just painfully bad, that's what killed the ratings. Usually the plot required the characters to act against all logic and reason. And even if the writing would've been up to par, the execution wasn't much better. Some of the actors were great, but some of the key characters were devoid of any chemistry between them, resulting in embarrassing acting performances. They wasted a brilliant concept.

I'm still on the fence about V. There's been some bad episodes and bad writing there as well, but they might yet redeem themselves when things escalate. If they don't, good riddance.

[SmileOfTheShadow]

I wouldn't call it pure crap, but the show really does not appear to be written with care. There are giant plot holes in most episodes. Many times the plot depends on one of the characters doing something stupid and out of character. The humans and media of the V universe are extremely stupid and easy to manipulate.

As far as Flash Forward - I found it very interesting, but somehow ABC couldn't market it and the ratings just fell off the edge - on some weeks coming in 6th in its timeslot. Maybe if it had been in the Tuesday night slot it would have done better. There was no chance at all of it being renewed.

Flash forward was a very interesting concept. I...didn't watch it though. I don't know why ><

[nottenst]

Why do you call the new "V" crap? Don't take that question for any more than a straightforward question about "V."

I wouldn't call it pure crap, but the show really does not appear to be written with care. There are giant plot holes in most episodes. Many times the plot depends on one of the characters doing something stupid and out of character. The humans and media of the V universe are extremely stupid and easy to manipulate.

As far as Flash Forward - I found it very interesting, but somehow ABC couldn't market it and the ratings just fell off the edge - on some weeks coming in 6th in its timeslot. Maybe if it had been in the Tuesday night slot it would have done better. There was no chance at all of it being renewed.

[KoshN]

Ha! Talk about Flashforward. One season an it's gone. Instead crap like the new version of V continues...

Why do you call the new "V" crap? Don't take that question for any more than a straightforward question about "V."

After you've replied, I'll tell you what I thought of "V." I had it typed in here, but didn't want it to possibly color your reply. So, I cut and pasted it into a text file, and am saving it for later.

[I love Lyta]

A good example of this has got to be the tv series of the "War of the Worlds"
two seasons of this series were made to a successful conclusion BUT as per usual they finished the series without tieing up all those loose ends.

Ha! Talk about Flashforward. One season an it's gone. Instead crap like the new version of V continues...

[David Panzer]

The only show I watch that could be argued as a "reality show" is Deadliest Catch, but I view that show more as a serialized documentary of Alaskan Crab Fishing.