Andromeda

[valens_shadow]

I think in the beginning I liked Andromeda but somewhere along the line it really did go down hill. I would probably guess it was that the point others have mentioned when Wolfe left but I couldn't honestly say. I did stick with it even though it was pretty bad by the end by which time I was only watching the occasional episode of the 5th season.

[SmileOfTheShadow]

Didn't read the spoilers, but I started rewatching this now that there's this thread. I'm 3 episodes in. It's realllly cheesy. The music can be bad with the fake instruments, the fight scenes a little over the top, but it's got a good feel, and characters I care about. Which is more than most shows these days.

[Laiden]

i like parts of Andromeda, but I still don't understand the fifth season at all. How they got there, whats going on. Why is the ship broken, why do stars have avatars now like ships. Just confusing as all get out.

******************* SEASON 5 SPOILERS ******************




What actually happened in Season 5 was

Trance used the Route of ages (discovered in season 4) to Tesseract the crew to a shadow (or pocket) universe before Arcology was destroyed. It is the same Shadow universe that the Verdrans had locked Tarn Vedra into. This theory was mentioned in season 2 that the Vedrans not only locked the planet off from Slipstream, but put it into a shadow universe. Quote from Season 2: Episode 18 "The Fair Unknown" Dylan "Dimensional Travel. so She's Tesseracting." Rommie "Obviously Tarn-vedra has made signifigant progress in the last 300 years." Dylan "Obviously. Rommie, you think thats how they cut themselves off from slipstream? Massive tesseract?" Rommie "Tarn Vedra hiding in a shadow universe? Its not impossible." The Vedrans created a solar system by manufacturing planets and a second sun, then they essentially abandoned the planet. another point is that every character arrived in the seefra system at a certain point in time. So Andromeda arrived months if not a year before Dylan arrived. being broken is the fact it didn't have power and people were laying claim to it and salvaging what it could that was useful. mainly they needed fuel more than anything. And the Avatars are more than just suns, there are moons and even the black hole dylan was trapped in has an avatar. its essentially their power manifested into a being in which we can understand and communicate with. They surmised the spirit of the Abyss was essentially an Avatar, but could never really discover what it was.

[nottenst]

I loved it for the first season and a half. Then, sadly, the showrunner was forced out and the show deliberately dumbed down. That first season and a half, though...I thought that it might have been a worthy successor to B5.

Jan

I actually kept with the show for the whole run even though it went into a severe decline after Wolfe was forced out. There were some decent episodes and concepts in the remaining seasons at times, but like Earth: Final Conflict, we really are just left with the pain of wishing for "what might have been."

[Andrew_Swallow]

i like parts of Andromeda, but I still don't understand the fifth season at all. How they got there, whats going on. Why is the ship broken, why do stars have avatars now like ships. Just confusing as all get out.

They started messing around with time/time travel, that damaged the ship.

Trace always was the avatar of a star. Other star avatar turn up. The captain had to become a super being to help the other stars.

[Truth66]

I'm surprised this series even went as far as 5 seasons. I watched a few of the early episodes and tried to get into it, but had a hard time. Every once in a while I'll stumble across an episode on television and try to watch it and just keep scratching my head and asking, huh?
Perhaps if I had the time to watch the series from the beginning, I might find a way of getting into it more.

[Night Marshal]

i like parts of Andromeda, but I still don't understand the fifth season at all. How they got there, whats going on. Why is the ship broken, why do stars have avatars now like ships. Just confusing as all get out.

I feel like Londo trying to understand the Hokey Poky. "It means nothing!" =p

Its a great idea, but not sure it every worked completely.

[Morden]

I have to admit that I hated this show from the very beginning, I gave it another shot during the fourth season after having stopped to watch at the end of season one, and what I saw was even worse. For me, "Andromeda" is silly in every aspect, characters, stories, effects, fight scenes, humor, I still laugh myself off when I accidentally zap into an episode regarding the - at least in my opinion - bad quality of this show. So, I would not recommend to watch it, or even pay for it. Sorry.

[Laiden]

I am probably one of the few liked Andromeda all the way through.

I want to correct that Bob Engels actually replaced Robert Hewit wolfe. fans were upset when Bob took over part way through 2nd season and made it sorbo-centric. and I will admit 3rd season was quite the disaster of cheese and confusion and pointless stories, but it really redeemed itself in the end with the Tyr storyline. not to mention Gordon Michael Woolvett got a chance to write an episode and it was odd, but fun!

Andromeda really redeemed itself in the 4th and 5th seasons. it takes ideas/passing thoughts from season 2 and used them in the 5th season.

My main reason for liking andromeda, was because of the technology it used was different from what most sci-fi shows typically use. it had Slipstream, it was not Earth-Centric, Genetic Engineering was huge form of creating new species, nanobot tech, point singularity weapons, AI interfaces, sensor probes, tesseracts, and a lot more that made it unique.

It was good fun action, it was in syndication for 4 seasons so it kept the audience by being filled with action. I say give it a shot, I understand why people wouldn't like it, but there's my reasons

[SmileOfTheShadow]

Tell ya what, Smile, how 'bout I shut up for a while and let you do the posting?

Jan
(yeah, like that's gonna happen!)

It is sad. Andromeda had a really good start and just became less and less memorable as the plotline went on. I think there were too many sudden character changes that seemed shoehorned in there as well. I was very excited, and then I was watching episodes while reading books, and then I stopped watching altogether. Maybe I'll try to get past the third season again.

[Jan]

Tell ya what, Smile, how 'bout I shut up for a while and let you do the posting?

Jan
(yeah, like that's gonna happen!)

[SmileOfTheShadow]

I loved it for the first season and a half. Then, sadly, the showrunner was forced out and the show deliberately dumbed down. That first season and a half, though...I thought that it might have been a worthy successor to B5.

Jan

Jan, you say everything so perfectly about how I feel nearly 100% of the time that I don't need to post anymore.

[Delenn_of_Mir]

i went ahead and ordered it since I need something new, and just because I love sci fi and really want to immerse myself in everything I can. I don't expect anything will ever remotely be as good as B5, but I still adore the genre. And space opera is my favorite kind. They don't seem to be making those anymore though. There is a whole slew of new sci fi pilots being made for next season, but none of them are space ones.

[Jan]

It is not B5, but then what is?

Oh, granted. And I tried to stick with it because I liked the characters. But it quickly became apparant that if there was a choice between story and effects, they went with effects. After the third such and another that really trashed my favorite character (Tyr), I gave it up.

Jan

[beerguy101]

It is worth watching. I will agree that the first 2 seasons are better than the last 3. There are some very bad and boring shows and then there are some very good episodes.

It is not B5, but then what is?