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  • Star Trek 11 Reviews - SPOILERS

    I think it's spoilerless. Mentions the name of the villan and kinda his overall evil mission vaguely.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...rek-movie.html

    "The result is not only by far the best of the 11 Star Trek movies, it must rank as the outstanding prequel of all time. "

    Discuss that line. Anyone seen it yet? lol
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  • #2
    I am willing to give it a try. It is nice to see they are "rebooting" the series without scrapping the memory of TOS. There are things from "Enterprise" that, even though the hard-cores moaned about the series, brought out things and fleshed out stories hinted at in both TOS and Next Gen. At least this promises to bring out some good things. If the stories can be of sufficient quality, I'd definitely tune into a "Starfleet Academy" series that has been hinted at (as long as they don't turn it into "Starfleet 90210".
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    • #3
      From all accounts, this is a decent to good movie. Some would even say excellent. We'll see in a few weeks. At least I will, because I will be in line.
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      • #4
        I hope it's good. Star Trek is the only show that was my all time favorite for about 15+ years, until Babylon 5 came out and put it in doubt. With each spin off I liked the franchise less until I haven't even watch an episode of Enterprise. I heard the last movie was pretty bad too, even though I meant to check it out. I'm actually looking forward to this one, I hope it works out.
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        • #5
          I'll be there when it's out.

          The original series is the only variant of STAR TREK I like.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by circularREASON View Post
            I'll be there when it's out.

            The original series is the only variant of STAR TREK I like.
            Me too. I watch the other series but I get tired of them quickly. The original I can watch many, many times over (and have already).
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            • #9
              Saw it. Thought it was OK, but nothing special. Wrote a review here.
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              • #10
                I just saw a review of the new film on tv today and it mentioned that the cast has already signed on for two more films. I would say that that's a little over confident on Paramounts part.

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                • #11
                  Originally posted by Truth66 View Post
                  I just saw a review of the new film on tv today and it mentioned that the cast has already signed on for two more films. I would say that that's a little over confident on Paramounts part.

                  I would think that that would be common for franchise-based films. Gives a better chance of continuity. Besides, signing for a film, is kind of like purchasing the options to a story... not guarantee that it will ever get made.

                  Let's see what the opening weekend gross is. I say it'll do better than Wolverine, at least.

                  I saw the film last night. I quite enjoyed it, aside from the fact that supernovae do not work that way!
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                  • #12
                    I saw the movie at the "midnight" opening. My review follows.

                    Star Trek

                    "I like this movie! It's exciting!"

                    Yeah, this was a fun movie. It wasn't perfect, but it was good. Even though they supposedly made the film accessible to non-fans, it was chock full of references that only ST lovers would enjoy. See the spoilers below:

                    Kirk's infamous Kobayashi Maru win, Sulu responding in the affirmative when Pike asked if anybody had received advanced combat training and then explaining later that it was fencing, Spock's "I have been and always shall be your friend," etc.


                    Now, the plot:

                    The movie opens with the USS Kelvin being attacked by a large vessel that appeared out of nowhere from an anomaly. The strange ship attacks and then demands that the Kelvin's skipper come aboard for negotiation. The captain does so, leaving his first officer in command. The strange ship's commander is a Romulan and he wants to know where Spock is. The captain is killed and the Romulans begin attacking the Kelvin again. George Kirk, the first officer, evacuates the ship, but manually flies the Kelvin into the enemy ship. Before impact, his wife tells him that the baby was born during the battle. They name him Jim.

                    Years later, Jim is shown to be a hellion. On Vulcan, a young Spock is goaded into a fight by some other Vulcan boys. Later, his father explains the Vulcan way to him, about controlling his anger and emotions.

                    Flash forward again and Kirk enters a bar and hits on a Starfleet cadet named Uhuru. Her male peers do not take kindly to this and a fight ensues. Eventually, they gang up on Kirk and beat the snot out of him. Captain Pike enters and breaks up the fight. He then tells Kirk about his father and encourages him to join Starfleet. Kirk checks out a ship being built (on the ground) and that's it for him. He shows up the next day and leaves on the shuttle to the Academy. On the shuttle, he meets Leonard McCoy. On Vulcan, the council is about to accept Spock into the Vulcan Science Academy. They make a comment about his human heritage being a liability and he refuses to accept their offer.

                    Three years later, and they take the Kobayashi Maru test...and win. The designer of the test is befuddled. That designer's name is Spock. A board of admirals holds an inquiry over Kirk's cheating on the test. The hearing is interrupted by a message: Vulcan is under attack. The cadets are rushed to assignment. Kirk does not have an assignment due to suspension. McCoy gets him onto the Enterprise on a technicality (more on that later). Pike finds out that Kirk is on board and is at first unhappy about it. Once at Vulcan, he changes his mind after they discover that the other Starfleet ships have been destroyed. After a short battle, the Romulan commander demands that Pike come over for negotiations. Pike makes Spock acting captain and Kirk first officer. Kirk, Sulu and a random red shirt board the shuttle with Pike and "jump" into the atmosphere before Pike gets to the enemy ship. The three are headed for a superweapon "drill" that protrudes from the Romulan ship. The red shirt dies because he didn't pull his chute in time. Kirk and Sulu fight off the crew of the platform and destroy the drill. But it's too late; Vulcan's destruction is imminent. Spock beams down to rescue his parents. Before they can beam out, his mother falls as the cliff face collapses. The planet is destroyed.

                    Back on the Enterprise, Kirk and Spock have a disagreement over the next course of action and Spock has Kirk marooned on a planet. There is a Starfleet installation on the planet, so Kirk heads for it, but he is attacked by two different beasts. He enters a cave and is chased, but a figure fights off the creature with a torch. That figure is...Spock. An old Spock. He reveals that he is from the future. A star was going to go supernova, so Spock had a plan to use a substance to create a black hole in order to prevent the phenomenon from destroying Romulus. It was not done on time and the planet was destroyed. The Romulan commander and Spock, in their respective ships, were transported back 120 years.

                    The Romulan commander tortures Pike for information on Earth's defenses, as it is next on his list. Pike only gives his name and rank. Then, a scene resembling something from ST2 ensues.

                    Old Spock takes Kirk to the Starfleet installation and they meet Scotty, who is unhappy with his assignment, and his alien counterpart. Old Spock gives Scotty some information that the engineer would discover in the future: how to beam at warp speed. Kirk and Scotty beam on to the Enterprise, leaving Old Spock, as the Vulcan said that his counterpart could not know of his presence. He also tells Kirk how to take command of the Enterprise, as it should be.

                    Kirk and Scotty are taken to the bridge and Kirk provokes Spock into attacking him. Only his father can stop him from killing Kirk. Spock stands down from command due to irrational behavior. Kirk sets course for the Romulan ship. Once they catch up, they find that Romulans have deployed a "drill" on Earth. Kirk and Spock beam onto the enemy ship. Spock steals his future self's ship and gets the Romulans to chase him. Kirk fights Romulans on the ship and finds Pike. Spock sets a collision course with the enemy ship. Before he hits, the Enterprise drops out of warp and beams him, Kirk and Pike to safety. Scotty becomes a miracle worker and gets the Enterprise away from the black hole created by the collision of Old Spock's ship and the Romulan ship.

                    Back on Earth, Kirk is promoted to captain to take the place of Pike, who has been promoted to Admiral.

                    Old Spock speaks with Spock and tells him to stay in Starfleet. He tells him that he wanted him and Kirk to become friends because they could accomplish a lot together. Another classic line here where the younger Spock is surprised that Old Spock lied to Kirk. The response? "I...implied."

                    Spock offers his services as first officer. Kirk accepts. The end.


                    Now, some complaints:

                    The technicality that McCoy used to get Kirk on board was fine: He injected him with a disease and said that as Kirk's primary care provider he had to take him on board. Once there, he gives him an antibiotic that has a side effect: Kirk's hands puff up. It doesn't last long and the constant hypos by McCoy are hilarious, but the scene screamed SW prequel.

                    Speaking of SW, the scene on the planet where Kirk was being chased by creatures could have been written by Lucas. Kirk was chased by a wolf-like beast, which is then killed by a large insect-like monster (think "There's always a bigger fish.") This CG just wasn't ST. There is also a scene where Scotty is beamed into a large pipe. This also reeked of failed SW humor. Then in the fight scene on the platform, Sulu does oneĆ¹just oneĆ¹sideways flip a la Darth Maul. It looked out of place. With all of that being said, these scenes/shots were not long.

                    I didn't like the way that McCoy got the name "Bones." When they met, he told Kirk that Starfleet was the only place that he had to go, as his wife took everything but his bones. We all know that he got the name from "sawbones," slang for surgeons of old, who would literally saw your bones off due to infection of limbs.

                    This movie is a bit short. I could have done with more of Nero, the Romulan commander.

                    Now, this isn't necessarily my complaint, but the rumor is true: They change ST continuity in this movie. It isn't a reboot, per se, as they acknowledge that the timeline interruption created an alternate universe. Things are not reset in this movie. Pike is admiral (he was only Fleet Captain in "The Menagerie"), Vulcan is gone, Amanda is dead, Starleet is not surprised at the look of the Romulans (first visual contact was supposed to be in "Balance of Terror"), etc. From what I've heard, they plan to make sequels, and this movie leaves it wide open. In my opinion, it's a reboot. They need to call it what it is.


                    The characters:

                    Surprisingly, I didn't get a Brady Bunch Movie spoof vibe from any of the characters. Scotty might have come close, but he was genuinely funny. The line from the TV ads (and my paraphrase at the beginning of this post) was better in the movie. After Kirk and Spock's fight, there is a moment of silence and Scotty exclaims "I like this ship! It's exciting!" And then later: "I beamed two people onto one pad! I've never done that before!" His alien counterpart also had the potential for disaster, but there are a few cute scenes with him. "Get down from there!"

                    There was a funny scene with Sulu in the beginning when Pike orders warp speed. Sulu couldn't do it and Pike asks him if he's a pilot. Sulu says that he is (remember, early in the series he was a botanist). Fantastic part for nerds there.

                    Chekov was good. Uhuru was fine. Spock, Kirk and McCoy were good in my opinion. In fact, McCoy was excellent.

                    Bana did a good job as Nero, but I think we should have been given more. The "less is more" rule did not apply here. If you're going to make a villain enigmatic, then do it. If not, then give us more.


                    Now, I am not going to put this in a spoiler. At the end, Kirk offers the Romulan commander assistance as his ship is being destroyed. The offer is declined in a rude manner, so Kirk orders that all weapons fire to assist in the ship's destruction. It was merciless. It was Kirk. It was awesome.

                    Despite reports that this was not a "cerebral" movie, it had a message to it. It wasn't just mindless action. Besides, ST has always been faux cerebral.

                    For anybody skeptical: I'd check this movie out while it's at the cinema. I might go see it again.
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                    • #13
                      I saw it this morning. I wore one of my B5 t-shirts today

                      I enjoyed it a lot. The characters felt right and it was very, very exciting and carried me through. I would love it if they would just go straight to a new tv series with these actors continuing from here, but I'll be content to just wait for the next film.

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                      • #14
                        As an obsessive Original Series fan....I loved it! Pike was more involved than I expected which was nice. There were some fun nods to the original I thought, along with my favorite:

                        (spoiler here)
                        Having a red-shirt appear out of nowhere for the away mission and then dying minutes later!


                        I thought the production design and costume design was well-done with an up-to-date look that reflected the original at the same time fairly well. The characters were done very well; I wasn't sure if Pegg would do a good Scotty but after seeing him I really liked it and all my doubts faded away! Kirk was my favorite in this movie, but I really enjoyed everybody.

                        I noticed something in this movie that jms was all about on B5 -- having the music take over from the sound EFX. It was done well.

                        I loved the humor in this movie; some scenes were obviously played for laughs but they got them from me.

                        As for non-Trek fans, I don't know how they felt, but as an original series fan, I thought this was a good fun ride with plenty of stuff to connect the movie to the series. A+ in my book.
                        Last edited by JoeD80; 05-09-2009, 01:56 PM.

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                        • #15
                          Originally posted by Dr Maturin View Post
                          At the end, Kirk offers the Romulan commander assistance as his ship is being destroyed. The offer is declined in a rude manner, so Kirk orders that all weapons fire to assist in the ship's destruction. It was merciless. It was Kirk. It was awesome.
                          I totally disagree. This is the exact opposite of the spirit of Star Trek, and though Kirk can get pissed off at people, I don't think it's in the spirit of the character, either. After we saw the movie, we went home and watched the first episode of TOS. And what happens? After the crew of the Enterprise kill the villain, Kirk isn't all "eat it, muthafucka!" but is actually sad at what had to be done. That's Kirk. He may be less by-the-book than Picard, but he's not merciless or thoughtless. Not at all.
                          Nero was supposed to have a motivation for what he did, a "tragic" one. They simply forgot that about halfway through the movie, making him an even sillier villain than Shinzon.

                          Also, I thought the re-use of old lines was dreadful, especially when it came to Spock. The first time around those lines have meaning; the second time, they have no point other than to make a few fans go "woo". How about some good original lines?

                          I loved the humor in this movie; some scenes were obviously played for laughs but they got them from me.
                          That I agree with. I've always thought Trek needed more humour, and this is a welcome step.
                          Last edited by Jonas; 05-10-2009, 03:33 AM.
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