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  • TNG reimagining

    Now, I wrote this in less than thirty minutes on the fly back in January, so take it for what it is.

    TNG - How it Should Have Gone

    Season...

    1. Have your basic sci-fi eps to grab the sci-fi fans, and the old school Trek fans. And have lots of cowboy fights like Kirk had. Don't change anything with the ending. The parasite aliens and contact with the Romulans was perfect for setup (which was their original plan.)

    2. Bring the Borg in, not necessarily the way they were with the Q thing. But keep up the Romulan contact, exchanging information on the "new threat." Have some tension build, using the same plot as used in the episode where they find the Iconian gateway, both parties wanting it for a weapon against the "new threat," but neither wanting either to have it.

    3. The Renegade Klingons' (see Heart of Glory) attacks are pissing off some people in the Federation. They want to hold the Klingon High Council responsible. This isn't good, as it distracts from the "new threat," the Borg. Picard and others work to calm these people down. You could have scenes in Ten Forward with crewmembers debating about it. These same people aren't big on the Romulan/Fed alliance. A crooked Fed official moves to start a war between the Romulans and the Klingons by faking Renegade attacks on Romulan outposts. This isn't good, as it would weaken the powers if the Borg attack en masse. The Borg start to attack outlying colonies on the border of Romulan/Fed space. Picard is taken by the Borg, assimilated, in a battle. The crooked Fed official is exposed and killed in his escape. The Klingons promise to crack down on the renegades and join the Romulan/Fed alliance against the Borg.

    4. There is a big movement on Earth and Romulus to "give in" to the Borg, hoping they will show mercy and perhaps allow some to leave to sustain their race far away. Wesley Crusher is a secret member of this movement, and works to sabotage the Enterprise, when Riker finds out. The Borg move further in, assimilating some worlds, destroying others. Picard leads the battle, the Borg using his knowledge of how the Starfleet strategists think. He is becoming more and more Borg. Tension is caused when more Romulan worlds fall than Fed worlds. These are erroneous claims that the Fed is working with the Borg. The Enterprise is almost destroyed before it escapes during a battle. In the last ep of the season, you find out the wonderful news that the parasites are back.

    5. The parasites have infested the Fed government and Starfleet, but only at lower levels. An admiral finds out and tells Riker to go to Romulus and ask them to keep up the fight, as the Fed will be having problems soon with the bugs. Of course, the Romulans don't believe it, so they get mad, saying the Fed is making excuses for their prognosticated lessening of fighting the enemy. Major Fed worlds start to fall to the Borg, and they are evacuated as much as possible. The fleet is losing ships upon ships, which are unable to dent the Borg cubes. Wesley Crusher, in an Enterprise cell for almost a year, is asked to use his genius to come up with a plan to hurt the Borg. He has reconsidered his position, as seeing millions of people assimilated has brought him to his senses. He comes up with the idea of warp speed missiles, which in theory would burn a hole through the Borg ships. Nano-technology is also considered as a possible weapon, "poisoning" the Borg. The last ep of the season, we find out the major Romulan official that isn't happy with the Fed is "bugged." The Enterprise finally battles Picard, Riker using the same line he did in the real show. "Mr Worf...fire."

    6. The weapons Wesley made don't work. What with the bugs in the Fed and Romulan governments and military, things aren't going well with the Borg invasion. The Tal Shiar and SF Internal Affairs work to rid the bugs, but they are many, and growing. There is mass hysteria on Earth and Romulus, paranoia about the bugs and the impending fleet of Borg cubes. The only thing stopping the Borg from speeding up is their ordered invasion, hitting every world on their way to Earth and Romulus, not sparing even a starbase. Data, Worf and Wesley embark on a daring mission to rescue Picard, and are successful, but Wesley dies to save Picard. Picard is returned to being human, and he has an edge in knowing what the Borg want and how they think. He takes command of the Enterprise and the first fleet. The Romulans don't trust him, what with his Borg experience. The bugged Romulan official (who nobody knows is bugged, as he is a powerful guy and above the tests) works to allow the Borg to come to Romulus. Why would the bugs want the Borg to come? Are they with the Borg?

    7. The nanotechnology weapon that Data, Worf and Wesley infected the Borg with on their rescue mission is beginning to work, as a score of cubes have simply stopped in their tracks. The Romulan official is beginning to look suspiscious, as his decisions are becoming obvious as a losing strategy. Troi goes undercover in disuise and exposes him, killing him. The Romulan Senate orders ALL personnel to be tested, regardless of rank or title. The riots on Earth and Romulus continue, but are slowly dying, as an effort is made to use a new way to rid people of the bugs. Half of the Borg fleet is stopped by the nanotech weapon, and the cubes are hauled by Alliance ships to stars, where they explode. Big moral issue, as no attempt is made to rescue the assimilated people, but there would be too much risk if the nanotech stopped working. The rest of the Borg stop the nanotech from spreading further. The Borg are close to Earth and Romulus. The bugs, although close to being stopped, have done enough damage. The Borg are but one step from assimilating the homeworlds, despite the nanotech taking out half the invasion force. The nanotech was the alliance's last hope. A huge evacuation isn't possible, as the bugs have complicated things enough that evacuating people would bring some of the bugs along. Clean people are evacuated to head for far off worlds to sustain the races, a sort of Noah's Ark. They find out the bugs plan to allow the Borg to invade, then infest the Borg. The Borg conquered the galaxy for them, and now they will control the Borg. A ship approaches a cube fleet as it enters the Sol system, the crew bugged up. The alliance, through Picard, tell the Borg about it and promise, in exchange for the Borg leaving and disconnecting with the worlds they assimilated, to stop the bugs. The Borg say the ship is irrelevant, easily destroyed. Picard says that Earth is infested and useless to them, that if they invade, the bugs will invade them. He uses his influence over them from his personality that's still part of the collective to "appreciate" this information, and they stop. They leave, disconnecting with the people they've assilimated on worlds, so the people will be able to be brought back to normal. The bugs are hunted down until the queens are found and killed. Still, their threat remains, and only constant vigilance will keep them at bay. The Fed will never be complacent again. The Romulans join the Fed in this vigilance against any future threats.

    Now, that was rough and doesn't describe every episode of every season. It's just a basic direction. You could still have stand alone episodes and what not (just no "devolving" eps, please). The one thing I hated most about TNG was it's lack of continuity. Picard's experience in TBOBW was not touched upon enough. "Family" was great in this respect, but it died there.

    Anyways, thougts?
    Recently, there was a reckoning. It occurred on November 4, 2014 across the United States. Voters, recognizing the failures of the current leadership and fearing their unchecked abuses of power, elected another party as the new majority. This is a first step toward preventing more damage and undoing some of the damage already done. Hopefully, this is as much as will be required.

  • #2
    WOW!

    Now that would have been worth watching! Why? Easy, it is a good story with a defined direction. This seemed to be obviously lacking in all of the sequel TREK incarnations until PARAMOUNT realised that you just cannot cobble together bits and pieces of ideas and expect them to be good just because they are under the banner that is called STAR TREK.
    I think it was very noticable that the stories improved alittle and that viewer numbers began to go back up when DS9 started introducing season-long arc stories to give the show a much needed 'spine' of support. The 'powers-that-be' looked across at its nearest rival and must,at some point, said..." Hey, this long-term-story thing really works on B5.....why don't we try it?"
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    • #3
      <<Easy, it is a good story with a defined direction.>>

      Not only that, but when most people watch a show, they come to love the characters and want to grow up with and come to know the characters. How can we do that when the TNG characters don't even know themselves?

      Star Trek: First Contact had wonderful follow up to Picard's Borg experience in the 3rd/4th season. But it happened, what, five years later in terms of continuity? They simply dropped the ball with TNG.
      Recently, there was a reckoning. It occurred on November 4, 2014 across the United States. Voters, recognizing the failures of the current leadership and fearing their unchecked abuses of power, elected another party as the new majority. This is a first step toward preventing more damage and undoing some of the damage already done. Hopefully, this is as much as will be required.

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      • #4
        FLAW:

        A continuing story requires showing episodes in a specific order: 101, 102, 103, et cetera.

        Star Trek TNG was a chaotic show wherein episodes might air like this: 103, 101, 104, 102, and so on. How episodes were written was very different from how they were filmed and produced. *For that reason*, Gene Roddenberry & the other producers required the episodes to be "self-contained" to air in any random order.

        A B5-style novel-for-TV format would not have worked for TNG, because the production was too chaotic.

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        • #5
          How episodes were written was very different from how they were filmed and produced. *For that reason*, Gene Roddenberry & the other producers required the episodes to be "self-contained" to air in any random order.

          A B5-style novel-for-TV format would not have worked for TNG, because the production was too chaotic.
          Actually tha's how B-5 was filmed, too. The only real difference was that JMS Knew what he was doing.

          He wrote (or assigned) the episodes knowing what order they would Appear. Filming, OTOH, was done with Cost & Convenience in mind. If a set would be used in, say 3 different episodes, they filmed as many of the scenes as they could on that set before moving stuff over to the Next set.

          If an Actor was in several scenes, they did their best to get All the scenes filmed the same day.

          Some episodes were filmed out of sequence because JMS knew that they would need longer to work on them. Episodes with a lot of CGI take longer in post production, so they got filmed earlier.

          Naturally, some of these things conflict. That's where knowing what you're doing and careful scheduling pay off.

          It's a matter of best use of Resources, not Chaos.

          Any TV studio is Organized Chaos.

          JMS knew how to put together a Crew that worked well and was happy to cooperate to keep the production times short. Which is why they came in Under Budget on almost every episode.

          Rumors have it that Trek Sets are Not "Happy Workplaces".

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          • #6
            <<A B5-style novel-for-TV format would not have worked for TNG, because the production was too chaotic.>>

            Then it SHOULD NOT have BEEN chaotic. bakana is right, you have to have a boss who knows how to get everything together and make everyone work together.

            And I might point out that if DS9 did it, TNG could have done it. They just didn't do it because the studio or someone told them a syndicated serial wouldn't work.
            Recently, there was a reckoning. It occurred on November 4, 2014 across the United States. Voters, recognizing the failures of the current leadership and fearing their unchecked abuses of power, elected another party as the new majority. This is a first step toward preventing more damage and undoing some of the damage already done. Hopefully, this is as much as will be required.

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            • #7
              Not only was TNG episodic for syndication, but the Borg were originally going to be those CGI insects, not the rubber suit humanoids we know and love. But the suits decided against. Things changed.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Z'ha'dumDweller
                <<A B5-style novel-for-TV format would not have worked for TNG, because the production was too chaotic. - Troy>>

                Then it SHOULD NOT have BEEN chaotic. bakana is right, you have to have a boss who knows how to get everything together and make everyone work together.

                Well then I guess the "boss" named Gene Roddenberry didn't know how. Gene routinely juggled episodes around during both the original Trek and Next Generation... constantly making changes before releasing them. That's why Gene insisted upon being able to air TNG episodes randomly.

                As for DS9, "major arc episodes" aired in three places: beginning, middle, or end of season, and they were buffered by stand-alones which could be shuffled randomly as needed. There's only two instances where order was crucial: Season 6 premiere arc, and season 7 finale arc. The rest of the time, DS9 was kept flexible with lots of stand-alones that could be randomly shuffled as needed.

                So far, Enterprise is the only Trek series where every episode is dependent upon the last and therefore MUST be aired in proper order.



                Anyway back to the main point:

                Gene Roddenberry would have rejected the continuing story idea. From his point-of-view, the TNG show needed to film randomly and air randomly. We can dream about a TNG with a Borg-war arc, but it would have never passed Gene's desk.

                So I'll just go watch Stargate's war arc instead.

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                • #9
                  <<The rest of the time, DS9 was kept flexible with lots of stand-alones that could be randomly shuffled as needed.>>

                  Incorrect. Almost every episode had continuity -- perhaps even one line -- referring to the war or some other episode.
                  Recently, there was a reckoning. It occurred on November 4, 2014 across the United States. Voters, recognizing the failures of the current leadership and fearing their unchecked abuses of power, elected another party as the new majority. This is a first step toward preventing more damage and undoing some of the damage already done. Hopefully, this is as much as will be required.

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                  • #10
                    A one line reference to the Dominion did not prevent the DS9 producers from sometimes shuffling episodes. For example, the episode I just watched "Shadowplay" could have aired *anytime* during season 2, even though it references the Dominion. Ditto "Rules of Acquisition" or "Armageddon Game" or.... et cetera.

                    Off the top of my head, I'd estimate ~50% of DS9 episodes were "stand-alone" and could be re-ordered if the filming schedule became tight.
                    Last edited by RCmodeler; 07-13-2004, 10:09 AM.

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                    • #11
                      <<For example, the episode I just watched "Shadowplay" could have aired *anytime* during season 2, even though it references the Dominion.>>

                      Bad example. They were still early in the series there. Come the 4th, 5th and 6th seasons, they'd reference stuff from two, three, ten episodes prior.
                      Recently, there was a reckoning. It occurred on November 4, 2014 across the United States. Voters, recognizing the failures of the current leadership and fearing their unchecked abuses of power, elected another party as the new majority. This is a first step toward preventing more damage and undoing some of the damage already done. Hopefully, this is as much as will be required.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Z'ha'dumDweller
                        <<For example, the episode I just watched "Shadowplay" could have aired *anytime* during season 2, even though it references the Dominion.>>
                        Bad example. They were still early in the series there. Come the 4th, 5th and 6th seasons, they'd reference stuff from two, three, ten episodes prior.
                        Which means they could still do a little juggling with the stand-alone episodes. Like air episode 511, because episode 510 is still in editing. Rick Berman *insisted* upon having that flexibility with DS9 and VOY.

                        BTW, why don't you use the *standard* method of quoting??? That's why it's there. Why use the non-standard bracketing?
                        Last edited by RCmodeler; 07-14-2004, 08:35 AM.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by RCmodeler
                          So I'll just go watch Stargate's war arc instead.
                          ROTFLMAO!!!!!!

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                          • #14
                            Although he did have the big plan, not all of JMS' scenes made it into the episodes where they were originally intended, some were reshuffled after they were shot. The one that comes to mind is the scene with Lorien and Ivonova, where he tells her that only beings with a limited lifespan could imagine that love is eternal....Into the Fire, I believe. I remember reading that JMS said the scene was originally shot to go in the previous episode, The Long Night. I can't remember why they decided to put it into ITF, I looked for the quote but didn't find it.

                            Not exactly what was being discussed, but somewhat related.
                            "The cat is not evil for killing the rat, nor is the rat evil for stealing the grain. Each acts according to its nature." Master Po - Kung Fu:TOS

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                            • #15
                              I can't remember why they decided to put it into ITF
                              Usually, when they did something like that it was because one episode ran a tiny bit Longer than it should and the other was a little bit Short.

                              The episodes have to be an Exact length. 1 hour, minus Commercial time. And the commercial breaks are always the same length.

                              So, sometimes they have to tinker a bit to get it Just Right.

                              In this case, it was obviously Info JMS considered Important, but When it was delivered wasn't critical.

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