Torchwood - SPOILERS

[Andrew_Swallow]

this weeks ep was about a guy who died after swollowing an eye and wasn't 100 percent dead, it was very very strange, i don't know if i liked it, and its reminding me of something i can't put my finger on. on the otherhand next weeks ep looks like it could be interesting

The first thing it will be reminding you of is The Ghost Whisperer. There are many non-ghost stories in which a man wakes up and cannot remember the last few weeks. Investigating the last week of a man's life is a standard police story, see CSI. The family united by death reminds me of the end of Romeo and Juliet.

[Lunan]

this weeks ep was about a guy who died after swollowing an eye and wasn't 100 percent dead, it was very very strange, i don't know if i liked it, and its reminding me of something i can't put my finger on. on the otherhand next weeks ep looks like it could be interesting

[Lunan]

Fair enough but how many of the psalms/pages of the book of the dead etc can be song to the tune of "The Yellow Rose Of Texas"?

i'm not even gonna try to touch that one

[Shr'eshhhhhh]

if you insist on an orignal idea then i'm afrid you living on the wrong planet, the stories are good enough, i'm actully fond of tosh and jack i think they are fiarly interesting chars, gwen is a bit disapointing though. and there are HUNDREDS of back from the dead stories going back at least 5000, jesus, osiris, etc. and yes i know i have heard the steal life to give to another at least 3 or 4 places but what the hell they did a fairly good job.

Fair enough but how many of the psalms/pages of the book of the dead etc can be song to the tune of "The Yellow Rose Of Texas"?

[Lunan]

if you insist on an orignal idea then i'm afrid you living on the wrong planet, the stories are good enough, i'm actully fond of tosh and jack i think they are fiarly interesting chars, gwen is a bit disapointing though. and there are HUNDREDS of back from the dead stories going back at least 5000, jesus, osiris, etc. and yes i know i have heard the steal life to give to another at least 3 or 4 places but what the hell they did a fairly good job.

[Shr'eshhhhhh]

"They Keep Killing Suzie" was yet another rip off episode.

The week before we got 2 classic Whedon scripts put through the mangle, this time we get a certain Neil Gaiman script for a show which is familiar to us all.

A character killed in a previous episode comes back to life with all there memories intact but nothing to say about what happened next.

Throw in a bit of Emily Dickinson and...aye I've seen that one before.

The healing hand of Boe or whatever it is takes the life of one person to allow another to come back from the dead. (sounds familiar too).

OK so it wasn't a straight rip off and the episode (though riddled with "What the...? " moments) wasn't the worst.

But it's difficult to enjoy a show with so much wrong and not one character one can even remotely like.

[Lunan]

Episode "They Keep Killing Suzie" did not contain any sex but lots of gore and death. This episode was a thriller and I enjoyed it.

i enjoyed the episode but what gore? it seemed a bit tame on that front

[Dr Maturin]

Gory gore? In the UK?

A show whose gore I cannot get over is War of the Worlds. I don't know how they got to play it in syndication. There was some gross stuff on there, such as an alien sawing a guy's skull and taking his brain out.

[Andrew_Swallow]

Episode "They Keep Killing Suzie" did not contain any sex but lots of gore and death. This episode was a thriller and I enjoyed it.

[Lunan]

and how was this weeks ep?

[Shr'eshhhhhh]

There are plenty of gay writers who can write straight characters with the diversity necessary to be accurate just as there are many straight writers who can do the same for gays.

Essentially the LGBT community (thanks for the definition Jan) is a microcosm of the human race at large. So while you have some openly swinging, covertly cheating and loyally partnered straight people you have the same in gayland too.

It's just a matter of empathy while writing.

LIM's comment has some validity the American cut of "Angel Heart" had the sex scene trimmed while the British cut had some of the violence trimmed.

It's a real pain for my sister who has a pre-teen Doctor Who fan daughter who really wants to see Captain Jack only she can't because he's starring in the Cardiff Chainsaw Boobtube Show.

[phazedout]

sublte LiM.
Be that as it may, the Torchwood premise seems rather wasted. IT is losing it's way and even seems to ackowledge it (in the last ep Tosh says "for christ's sake we're supposed to be professionals") it strikes me as omething written from an adolescents point of view of how relationships should work, rather childish with broad strokes. Not "adult" at all.
Phaze
on the "not that it isn't fun BTW" ID

[Dr Maturin]

TV is different in the two countries. Here in the USA, we blow stuff up. In the UK, they...blow stuff.

[Jan]

while i tend to agree with the majority of your post and i can figure out from context, what exactly does LGBT mean?

Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgendered.

Jan

[Lunan]

I don't have a problem with LGBT characters in television shows. A large minority of people come under that umbrella and it would be lunacy to just ignore or worse still ridicule what is a diverse and complex group of individuals.

while i tend to agree with the majority of your post and i can figure out from context, what exactly does LGBT mean?

and i do have to agree that it seems either RTD as a gay man has no clue about striaght relationships or that peopel in the UK are more sex feinds then here in the states (while freaky shit does happen here, its by no means as much as shown on british tv)