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  • Dr Maturin
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    There's enough of my enormous penis to go around for everyone.

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  • Joseph DeMartino
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    BTW, LiM, I keep forgetting to mention how much I like the new avatar and the new nickname. I'm guessing "MyEnormousPenis" was already taken?

    (You know I'm just funnin' with you. )

    Regards,

    Joe

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  • Dr Maturin
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    Originally posted by AmyG
    Having grown up in a shore town but now living landlocked, I definitely feel your pain on this, too. People don't understand when I tell them that seafood isn't fresh enough unless you've looked out the window from your table, seen the boat pull up to the dock, and seen the captain sell his catch to the chef. Sigh.

    Although, I will make exceptions. The best sushi fish I've ever eaten was decidedly not just-caught. I was at the opening of Chef Morimoto's restaurant in Philadelphia, and the best dish I had that night was an appetizer, a tuna tartare. There had been a lot of press before the opening, with people writing volumes about the specifics of the food, and so I'd been able to read that the toro they were using for that dish was from a $23,000 tuna belly that had been hand chosen for Morimoto and flown over encased in some absurd quantity of ice. Just the belly cost $23,000! And I can still remember the incredible taste of that dish the first time I had it. (Future eatings of it have been less memorable, probably because the toro was more ordinary.)
    I used to eat the shit off of little carts on the streets of San Francisco, so yeah, nothing here can even compare.

    I've tried sushi several times, but it's just not filling enough for me. I'm about to head out to the fancy Chinese restaurant, and while their food is the best of its type in the area, it in no way compares to the hole-in-the-wall Cantonese take out places back home, either in price or in taste. The entire menu is different.

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  • Joseph DeMartino
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    Originally posted by AmyG
    Okay, now I'm hungry!
    I hear there's a KFC close to where you are.

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  • AmyG
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    Originally posted by LessonInMachismo
    Especially Red Lobster. But, sadly, there isn't a good seafood restaurant around here.
    Having grown up in a shore town but now living landlocked, I definitely feel your pain on this, too. People don't understand when I tell them that seafood isn't fresh enough unless you've looked out the window from your table, seen the boat pull up to the dock, and seen the captain sell his catch to the chef. Sigh.

    Although, I will make exceptions. The best sushi fish I've ever eaten was decidedly not just-caught. I was at the opening of Chef Morimoto's restaurant in Philadelphia, and the best dish I had that night was an appetizer, a tuna tartare. There had been a lot of press before the opening, with people writing volumes about the specifics of the food, and so I'd been able to read that the toro they were using for that dish was from a $23,000 tuna belly that had been hand chosen for Morimoto and flown over encased in some absurd quantity of ice. Just the belly cost $23,000! And I can still remember the incredible taste of that dish the first time I had it. (Future eatings of it have been less memorable, probably because the toro was more ordinary.)

    Okay, now I'm hungry!

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  • Dr Maturin
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    Originally posted by AmyG
    Wow. LiM, I feel your pain. I mean, honestly, I cannot think of anything more depressing than drinking to get drunk in a Red Lobster. It's so sublimely melancholic that it ought to be the beginning of a Twilight Zone episode.
    Especially Red Lobster. But, sadly, there isn't a good seafood restaurant around here. Sorry, catfish is not seafood and Red Lobster is so laughably subpar in quality that the only reason to go there is...to get drunk in the bar.

    Well, at least it was comparatively private.

    And I didn't get drunk, per se. It takes a whole hell of a lot of alcohol (or stronger doses) to get me to the "fully inebriated" stage, but I did have a good buzz going on.

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  • AmyG
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    Wow. LiM, I feel your pain. I mean, honestly, I cannot think of anything more depressing than drinking to get drunk in a Red Lobster. It's so sublimely melancholic that it ought to be the beginning of a Twilight Zone episode.

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  • Dr Maturin
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    Originally posted by AmyG
    It's a shame most people weren't while watching it...
    You should have been in my theater.

    I remember how much TPM let me down. After seeing it, I got into my car and drove. Silently. Somehow, I wound up at Red Lobster. I went to their bar and just started drinking. I saw the first film when I was just under two years of age. ROTJ came out in 1983, so it was thirteen years until we got new theatrical Star Wars footage in the form of the Special Editions. I found those to be puzzling, if not utterly useless. Why hadn't I taken them as a signal of the garbage to come? Why had I walked into the cinema with the foregone conclusion that TPM would rule? Sixteen years of my life all came crashing down in the course of about ten minutes, which was the amount of time that it took for me to accept that the movie, well, sucked.

    I am, however, hyped about the release of the unaltered original classic trilogy in a few weeks.
    Last edited by Dr Maturin; 08-29-2006, 07:36 PM.

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  • AaronB
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    Originally posted by AmyG
    It's a shame most people weren't while watching it...
    True, but they were when it was being written.

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  • AmyG
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    It's a shame most people weren't while watching it...

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  • Ranger1
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    Jarjar rocks! its a hidden message to smoke Ganja (Ganga, Gungan... catch my drift?)

    Lucas was Hi during Episode 1.

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  • SmileOfTheShadow
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    Originally posted by Karachi Vyce
    Yousa say peepa gunna die???

    Noooooooooo!!! Make it stop!!!!! ::kills George Lucas.::

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  • Karachi Vyce
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    Yousa say peepa gunna die???

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  • Jan
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    A gift from your Friendly Neighborhood Moderator--your very own thread to talk about talking.

    (not trying to be a 'thread nazi', it just seemed to me that the TLT thread is likely to have a lot of non-regular visitors looking for real discussion about the DVD project and should probably stay more on topic).

    Jan

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  • Dr Maturin
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    Originally posted by AmyG
    That (a frequent use of ejectives) also has nothing to do with standard American English -- which is an idealized dialect not really natively spoken anywhere in the US, but rather taught by accent/dialect coaches and acting teachers. Ejectives are used where they are proper to be used; that is, there are certainly regionalisms where plosive consonant sounds are 'swallowed' more than in other regions, and SAE would correct those. But it's not a feature, per se, of SAE that you have ejectives "every few words." You use them where they belong.

    As for the intake of air thing, I'm sure some people do it and some don't, but again, it isn't a feature of accent or dialect whatsoever.

    I'm wondering if we're speaking at cross purposes here because of a lack of common ground. Are you a native American English speaker? Or did you learn it abroad? I'm thinking, from your posts, that possibly you had someone teaching you English who had some strange ideas about how to produce the generic accent of SAE. In my case, I'm a native speaker who picked SAE up through many years of acting and singing (and training in acting and singing). And I can assure you, it's all about pronunciation. It doesn't matter how breathily you speak, or whether or not you use plosives frequently.
    I think we have a complete breakdown of communication here. I wasn't describing the proper use of sounds or articulation in any particular language or dialect; I was saying that I've noticed that I've noticed those characteristics are frequently featured by speakers of the "international accent."

    Good day!

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