The Rampant, Irresponsible Political Thread

[AaronB]

What's your point? A line-item veto is a smart idea.

It's not as if Clinton didnt want it. The Supreme Court ruled it unconstitutional in the form that it initially took as passed.

I think that his point is that only slave owning southerners want a line item veto. Seriously though, I think it's a great idea. I thought so when they wanted to do it the first time and still think so.

[David Panzer]

What's your point?

Just a neat little history tidbit.

If the president gets the line-item veto or not, I don't care.

[Dr Maturin]

If God had wanted man to play soccer, he wouldn't have given us arms - Ditka

That's bad ass.

I'm so sick of hearing about that soccer player who came over here to the US this month. He's going to make soccer popular in America! Ugh.

[Karachi Vyce]

That's bad ass.

I'm so sick of hearing about that soccer player who came over here to the US this month. He's going to make soccer popular in America! Ugh.

David Beckham? I will admit, he has actually peaked my interest. He does have legitimate star power. He's basically the Michael Jordan of soccer (not in terms ability, because Jordan was a better basketball player than Beckham is a soccer player, but definitely in terms of name value / recognition and popularity).

But I don't necessarily think he'll really cause soccer to catch on. Hell, our local soccer franchise, D.C. United, is not only a good team, they're a consistently good team, winning several MLS championships and in general doing well every year. And yet they get probably the least publicity out of any of our sports franchises, even though they're the only D.C. major league sports team that have won a championship in many, many years.

[David Panzer]

True. And the last time there was big name soccer players was before I was born in the NASL. The New York club literally had a who's-who of soccer greats, won 2 titles but folded in the early 80's due to low attendance. Other teams had other soccer greats but if you're not into that sport, you're left going "Who?"

[AaronB]

True. And the last time there was big name soccer players was before I was born in the NASL. The New York club literally had a who's-who of soccer greats, won 2 titles but folded in the early 80's due to low attendance. Other teams had other soccer greats but if you're not into that sport, you're left going "Who?"

There were a lot of business related issues as to why the NASL failed too. Namely the clubs were individually owned and there was no salary cap as well. This is not the case with the MLS where the league office negotiates all of the contracts for the teams and there is a salary cap, save now for one player per team like a Beckham. Not to mention that the teams are now getting their own stadiums with about 15,000 - 20,000 seats which helps them not to have to sell out places like the 80,000 Giants Stadium.

[Dr Maturin]

The increased Hispanic population may help as well. But you won't see me watching it. Hell, save for major Razorback games, I don't want American football.

[David Panzer]

I watch Chicago Cubs baseball (it's almost masochistic), Chicago Bears football , University of Michigan football and University of Memphis basketball.

[Dr Maturin]

I watch any baseball, golf, and the rodeo. I abhor basketball, I already mentioned football, and...hockey? Please.

[David Panzer]

I like watching the Stanley Cup. Great fun.

I've found golf to be a perfect way of treating insomnia.

And I've never seen the point in a rodeo

[Towelmaster]

...and there is a salary cap, save now for one player per team like a Beckham.

Erm... The vast part of Beckham's income will be generated by sponsordeals, not by the club's salary-payments. As was already said, the guy is a marketingtool, not a footballplayer per se.

The fact that his wife used to be in a girlband(can't bring myself to write down the name...) may have had some influence in his decision. I understand she want to have a movie-career, she recently signed a contract for a part in the new Tom Cruise movie called 'The Thetans'... about Scientology.

I kid you not.

[AaronB]

Erm... The vast part of Beckham's income will be generated by sponsordeals, not by the club's salary-payments. As was already said, the guy is a marketingtool, not a footballplayer per se.

While true that a good portion of his income will be sponsorships, the MLS is still footing a part of the bill and this deal would not have happened if the MLS didn't have the "Beckham Rule"

The fact that his wife used to be in a girlband(can't bring myself to write down the name...) may have had some influence in his decision. I understand she want to have a movie-career, she recently signed a contract for a part in the new Tom Cruise movie called 'The Thetans'... about Scientology.

I kid you not.

They said the same thing about Gretzky's wife, Janet Jones, when he was traded from Edmonton to LA.

[Dr Maturin]

I understand she want to have a movie-career, she recently signed a contract for a part in the new Tom Cruise movie called 'The Thetans'... about Scientology.

Maybe that'll make Beckham want to...sock her.

[JohnFourtyTwo]

Looks like Tom Cruise has been hell-bent on committing career suicide the past few years, so let him. Hopefully he'll invite a few others over to his cool-aid party also.

[David Panzer]

DuBois: Hey boys! I can't help but noticing your sign and I hope you boys aren't too upset about me having to prosecute Mr. Kelly.

Huey: Hey man, you do what you gotta do

Riley: Why R. Kelly, huh?! What did R. Kelly do to you?

DuBois: He's accused of relieving himself on an underage girl on tape, which is against the law.

Riley: Okay, okay, okay. But let's examine this whole peeing thing. So I can pee in a toilet, and it's okay, but if I pee on a person, it's like, not okay?

DuBois: Well... umm, yeah.

Riley: Well, what if I'm peeing, and Huey's in the bathroom, and I accidentally pee on Huey? Should I go to jail?

Huey: What the hell would I be doing in the bathroom when you're in the bathroom?

Riley: Hold up, hold up. Remember when we used to sleep in the same bed when we was littler? From time to time I'd have a little accident.

Huey: You still do.

Riley: Shut up! So, Mr. DuBois, Mr. I-wanna-lock-niggas-up-for-peein, what's the statute of limitations on bedwetting? Why not prosecute me and R. Kelly at the same time, huh?

DuBois: Now Riley, no one's going to prosecute you for bedwetting.

Riley: And you shouldn't. It's a natural bodily function, and now every nigga in the world gonna be scared to pee. I may never pee again!

DuBois: Riley, it was a little girl.

Riley: Oh, I seen that girl. She ain't little. I'm little.

DuBois: Yes.

Riley: Gary Coleman's little.

BuBois: Yeah.

Riley: Mini-me's little.

DuBois: Very.

Riley: And to the best of my knowledge, we all managed to avoid gettin peed on so far.

DuBois: But what about the victim?!

Riley: Oh yes, the victim. At what point does personal responsibility become a factor in this equation?

DuBois: I don't think that--

Riley: I see piss coming I move.

DuBois: Hmmm.

Riley: She saw piss coming she stayed.

Du Bois: Yeah she did but...

Riley: And why should I have to miss out on the next R. Kelly album just for that?!

Riley walks off.

Huey: Man, you just got beat by an 8-year-old.

Riley: Aaaaand, if R. Kelly goes to jail, I'll piss on your cat!