Star Wars episode 3

[Ranger1]

Well,what do you people think? will it be any good?
as a hardcore fan of the original trilogy (the new trilogy aint that bad as well,but much less then the original) im dying to see this episode,supose to be the darkest one of them all.

[OmahaStar]

Whoopty Fricken Doo.

The original trilogy was good - I liked it.

Episode 1 needed major work ... it was pathetic.

Episode 2 should never have been made. It felt like the script was rushed through "I killed them. I killed them all. They're dead" - no kidding. You figure that out on your own there, kiddo?

"The sand is rough. Not like your skin" ... Yeah, there's writing genious there.



I look at Episode 3 the same way Londo looks at Cartagia the first time "I am sure I'll be just as impressed" ...

[Kevin]

I think it amuesing but... I grew up on Star Wars, it was my thing... and then Babylon 5 hit the airwaves and I got rather into that... so when Episode 1 came out, it was not only a let down on the basis that it couldn't compare to the original trilogy, but a let down in that Babylon 5 had matured my tastes over the year, and I couldn't get past how remarkably... childish it was.

Episode 2 was a bit better, a bit more matured, but still had horrible writing and just, didn't fit well. Ewan McGregor's quality as an actor couldn't make up for Haden Christiansan as well as Natalie Portman's horrible performances.

So, as for Episode 3... keep in mind, everyone is going to die with few exceptions... so with that in mind, it can't be *that* bad of a movie

I do think it'll be the best of the bunch... but that's not saying much. Where I'm standing right now, I don't even *know* what new B5 production is in work, and I'm about 5 times more excited about it.

[Ranger1]

Well i grew up on Star Wars,when B5 went into gear (around season 3) i dare said "BABYLON 5 IS BETTER THEN STAR WARS" with such an excitement to all my friends (which all thought i was like sick or something),then came Phantom Menace and well...it was such a hype i was in the theater 5 times for that episode,the special effects blew me away,looking back now i can say with a full heart that episode 1 was childish like HELL.
Episode 2 was a bit more fun,no kids and annoying creatures.

You got to understand that until the late 80's i always thought that Star wars had episode 1,2 and 3 out there and they were like rare or something,heard few people saying (lying) that they saw them...HAHA i can never forget that.

I just don't understand why Lucas made 1 and 2 this way, i remember showing Phantom Menace to my dad,at the end i asked him how was it? he said: it was ok,but its not Star Wars,i happen to agree with him,nothing to do with the original trilogy beside few jokes and 2 droids.

That's why im waiting for episode 3,i don't think i ever saw a movie that its a part of a trilogy and the end chapter instead of a happy ending,everyone is going to die (well almost),the hero is turning to the bad (dark) side,but still don't expect it to be as brutal as i want it to be since it will be PG-13

[Ranger1]

Btw its now official: 21st Septemper,the original (SE's) trilogy will be availble on DVD,4 disks.

[Dr Maturin]

Kinda late in posting on this thread, but I thought I'd add on. I am 28 years old. I have been a Star Wars "fan" since I was 2 years old. I still have the toys, the books all that stuff from back then. I have written novel-length stories based in that universe. I was hyped for The Phantom Menace. When I walked out, I was disgusted. Most of the people around me were, too. I just felt like I'd been ripped off. So I thought I'd give Episode II a chance. I went to Celebration II, I saw the sneak preview with Yoda fighting. I was disappointed after seeing the movie, though.

Among the obvious things such as bad writing, bad acting and cheesy comedy (along with downright inane comedy) I think one of the things the prequel trilogy is lacking in is a hero. Anakin isn't a hero...we know where his path leads. Qui-Gon was in the first film, but he died. Obi-Wan plays second fiddle in TPM and though his role picks up in Attack of the Clones, we know where his path leads. From what I've heard on Episode III, his status may change. Spoilers follow...









I hear he has a chase scene with the Confederacy's general ( to appear in the Clone Wars cartoon's second season) and then has a loooong duel with Anakin. I have scene footage of the duel and it does look quite extensive. But still...the idea that not knowing how we get somewhere lessens the negative point that we know the destination definitely did not pay off in the Star Wars prequels for me personally. Moneywise, Lucas made a good decision. He made a Star Wars for a whole new generation, and his commercial ventures no doubt appeal to these pre-teen and teen-aged kids. But what about us? I feel like I got robbed with the prequels. So this time, I won't have this big urge to see Episode III the first day or even the first week of its debut. To me, it's like "whatever." But, here is something interesting, supposedly from an inside source. I don't know where it came from as on online buddy sent it to me. Check the attached pic.

[Dr Maturin]

<<Btw its now official: 21st Septemper,the original (SE's) trilogy will be availble on DVD,4 disks.>>

Here are the three types of packaging from a French website:

http://www.kamuiweb.com/sitev3/html/modules/news/article.php?storyid=808

[Dr Maturin]

As in all stories derived from myth, Star Wars and Babylon 5 have a lot in common. Think of Kosh and Obi-Wan. Obi-Wan spoke to Luke in half-truths, as does Kosh to Sheridan. Kosh told Sheridan he would not be there to help him if he went to Z'ha'dum. Obi-Wan told Luke in spirit form he could not interfere if Luke faced Vader. Sheridan jumps down the chasm in Z'ha'dum to escape a former loved on. Luke takes a leap from his own father in Empire Strikes Back.

Not exact analogies, but then if they were, all stories would be identical. Anyone else see any striking similarities between SW and B5?

[Ranger1]

I think episode 3 gonna rule (in fact if episode 1 was 3 this new trilogy would have been good),i have to agree with you about Phantom Menace,although i think that Attack of the Clones was much better and i really enjoyed it (until this day,and of course nothing to compare to the original trilogy).

Everyone is going to die!! and the bad guys win,whats there not to love??

[colonyearth]

Getting me onto the SW problem is like getting me onto the Trek problem...I start ranting and raving, furious at the how such imaginative and wondrous universes have been ruined and wasted by bad writing and lack of imagination.

I don't blame Portman or Christianson for their performances since I've seen them in other films where they blew me away. I blame the man who should be blamed..GL.

He alone has ruined his own creation. Stupid jokes and campy humor. For GODSAKE let 3PO be 3PO, quit making him slapstick pun machine!

"My heart aches for the kiss you should never have given me." or whatever that HORRID line was.

I have very low expectations for EPIII, very low. Even the characters we know from the original trilogy aren't acting like themselves, and GL keeps trying to bring in characters from the original trilogy to fix the problem but it won't work. If he wanted to fix the problem he would fire himself!

I saw such potential in the pre-quels and none of it has been reached buy a long shot! We could've had a hero...Anakin should have been the hero, the fallen hero...we should've loved him from the start and ached as we watched him fall victim to the forces surrounding him. We should've wanted to see Luke redeem him later, for that matter we should've seen something in him to redeem later, which we don't...what good does Luke see in him? I didn't see it...all I see is a bratty spoiled arrogant ass.

GL has royally screwed SW. The only good news I've heard about EPIII, is that GL got his hands on the extended edition of RoTK before it was released to theatres and showed it to his people and angrily told them "we have to do better." Well, before he said that to anyone, he should've been yelling it to himself.

'Nough said.

CE

[OmahaStar]

^ What he said.

[Kevin]

^ I'll second that sentiment

[Dr Maturin]

Something else interesting. I am going off of memory here, and since I am a moron, I don't know how well you should trust this, but someone once told me that GL came up to JMS and said that he really liked The Gathering. Well...that must have been 1995 at the latest, let's say.

Then on The Phantom Menace, the whole Jedi taken as babies thing is strikingly similar to Psi Corps policy. Perhaps GL took a look at B5 before writing TPM. Also...and this is very coincidental: check out that chase scene in the metropolis (forget which ep) in Crusade...it is very close to the speeder chase scene in Attack of the Clones. They even go through a tunnel embedded in a building. There are probably other analogies, but none that come to mind off hand. Is GL being inspired by B5?

[colonyearth]

Originally posted by Z'ha'dumDweller
Something else interesting. I am going off of memory here, and since I am a moron, I don't know how well you should trust this, but someone once told me that GL came up to JMS and said that he really liked The Gathering. Well...that must have been 1995 at the latest, let's say.

Then on The Phantom Menace, the whole Jedi taken as babies thing is strikingly similar to Psi Corps policy. Perhaps GL took a look at B5 before writing TPM. Also...and this is very coincidental: check out that chase scene in the metropolis (forget which ep) in Crusade...it is very close to the speeder chase scene in Attack of the Clones. They even go through a tunnel embedded in a building. There are probably other analogies, but none that come to mind off hand. Is GL being inspired by B5?

No I don't think GL is necessarily being inspired by B5, I simply think GL isn't a good writer or director. He's a great idea man. Hell, if he'd had JMS write the SW pre-guels they would've rocked.

Those are similarities, and who's to say that on some subconscious level, given that GL even saw any of B5 or Crusade, those images might not have carried into GL's scripts. But it's a stretch, and would clearly have happened on a subliminal level. Personally, I think GL is too busy blantantly borrowing from himself and ruining what he borrows.

[Dr Maturin]

<<Hell, if he'd had JMS write the SW pre-guels they would've rocked.>>

I thought it would have been cool to have Aaron Allston write the scripts. If you don't know, he is an author of several SW novels and a great one at that.