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    And so it begins....

    The big ramp-up.

  • #2
    <groans>

    After the writing quality (or should I say, lack thereof) in the last three movies, I was really hoping that franchise would wither on the vine. But, alas, we are going to be subjected to more of it.

    Lucas writes mediocre (at best) stories, such as Star Wars and THX-1138 and gets a lifetime grant to deliver whatever he wants. JMS and Joss Wedon write really compelling stories that fit together, don't contradict themselves, and appeal to intelligent fans, and can barely get work.

    <channels Jubal Early> Does that seem right to you?
    "Ivanova is God!"

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    • #3
      Im all for it, Star Wars on TV can be so much better than a feature film.

      Lucas will only write the first season.
      Sleeping in Light-----Darnit! Shut the Window.

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      • #4
        They should have all the Indie Film makers write the episodes based on the screenplay
        "It is said that the future is always born in pain. The history of war is the history of pain. If we are wise, what is born of that pain matures into the promise of a better world, because we learn that we can no longer afford the mistakes of the past." -- G'Kar in Babylon 5:"In the Beginning"

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        • #5
          Speaking about Indie.... http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/newsitem.cfm?NewsID=4266
          Sleeping in Light-----Darnit! Shut the Window.

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          • #6
            But, alas, we are going to be subjected to more of it.
            You could chose to not watch it.

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            • #7
              By the sound of it I'd say he's already made that choice.
              Radhil Trebors
              Persona Under Construction

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Radhil
                By the sound of it I'd say he's already made that choice.
                That would be correct. Won't even be buying episodes 1-3 on DVD.
                "Ivanova is God!"

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                • #9
                  Good for you. You're not being subjected to it though if you choose to let it be one of the other thousands of things on television that you don't watch.

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                  • #10
                    Epsiode III DVD is already on my pre-order on amazon...great flick.
                    Sleeping in Light-----Darnit! Shut the Window.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by SpooRancher
                      <groans>
                      After the writing quality (or should I say, lack thereof) in the last three movies, I was really hoping that franchise would wither on the vine. But, alas, we are going to be subjected to more of it.
                      I agree, this year was nothing, but disappointmentsà The one movie that I expected some kind of excitement out of it (the PG-13 rating screwed me) was Star Wars: Episode 3; and that killed it for me. I will not go to another movie theater and spend my money ever again (Serenity being the only exception of course).

                      All I could think about at the pivotal point in the movie that turned Anakin to the dark side. What the Hell was that? No rage scene, no flash backs to his mom and/or his greatest fears. Nothing! He just took the better deal.

                      Londo did a better job of it when he found out Mr. Morden was responsible for Adira death, LondoÆs rage scene was the best I have ever seen in a Movie and TV show. All the pieces fit together and I was happy with that arc.

                      Why canÆt writers write a decent story with a good outcome???

                      Just asking your opinion, donÆt you think movies today have lowered themselves in plot, character development and plain old sense?

                      Lucas writes mediocre (at best) stories, such as Star Wars and THX-1138 and gets a lifetime grant to deliver whatever he wants. JMS and Joss Wedon write really compelling stories that fit together, don't contradict themselves, and appeal to intelligent fans, and can barely get work.

                      <channels Jubal Early> Does that seem right to you
                      You pay your money and you take your chancesà it doesnÆt surprise me that it will take another 20 years before the current high priced actors and directors die off and leave things to real people. Indie films and fan flicks are filling a need that the establishment wonÆt meet and I am all for getting rid of the establishment.

                      Last edited by rallytbk; 10-11-2005, 12:32 PM.
                      "The world is a dangerous place---not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it" --Albert Einstein

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                      • #12
                        Just asking your opinion, donÆt you think movies today have lowered themselves in plot, character development and plain old sense?
                        I am sure of that... but... I also found out that a *lot* of good movies are right below the surface. No advertisments, no TV Prime time. An example was "Stratosphere Girl" for me, I NEVER heard of the movie, saw absolutely no nothing of it. I saw it on a list of films and thought to myself: Well, maybe another comic adaption (I was at that time into that stuff, Spiderman was just so nice for me *g*), so I aquired the movie and watched... no, it was no comic adaption, no *comic* adaption, maybe a manga adaption. It was right in between what "Lost in Translation" could have been and had a David Lynch Type of dreamworld feeling. I loved it, I urge every friend of mine to watch it. Most of them say they like it, but then again, it could be that my urge is so threatening 8o)

                        Anyway, I think there are a lot of good movies, but sadly most of them not hollywood blockbusters and therefore lost (to me). So yes, independent and small productions can be superb, but how to find them?!

                        PeAcE
                        greetings from austria, best known for its history and fine wine... feels like a wine cellar on a graveyard 8-)

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Sabotman
                          It's a sorry state of affairs when Sci Fi can't be bothered to show the caucians aren't the only ones in the future.
                          Funny you should say thatà for many years I have discussed this problem with friends. Note: The cartoon ôJetsonsö shows the future in which life is so easy and futuristic that their jobs can be accomplished with a push of a button. Notice any blacks or Hispanics?

                          Originally posted by Laiden
                          that can be said about MANY sci-fi shows . . . I dont really feel like listing them all
                          ThatÆs why I love Babylon 5, Dr. Stephen Franklin said it best in this episode:

                          "What else have I missed?"
                          "Oh. The usual. The good times, and the bad times, the revelations, the revolutions. Outbreaks of hysteria, the parade of scandals, promises, constitutions, and the occasional war. The last big ones were against the Dilgar, which we won, and against the Minbari, which.. Well, that's a long story."
                          Mariah Cirrus and Dr. Franklin, The Long Dark

                          Star Trek is to clean cut for me and it is enlightening to see characters on Babylon 5 with so many faults.

                          Originally posted by Z'ha'dumDweller
                          Affirmative action in sci-fi casting...now I've seen it all.
                          Hey, I am all for Affirmative actionà I nearly died when I saw Capt. Montoya on Babylon 5. LOL while he only lasted on one or two episodes it expanded my thoughts about future tv shows.
                          "The world is a dangerous place---not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it" --Albert Einstein

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                          • #14
                            somehow my thoughts were magically transported to the Star Wars thread and not the SAaB thread . . . how odd
                            "It is said that the future is always born in pain. The history of war is the history of pain. If we are wise, what is born of that pain matures into the promise of a better world, because we learn that we can no longer afford the mistakes of the past." -- G'Kar in Babylon 5:"In the Beginning"

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Laiden
                              somehow my thoughts were magically transported to the Star Wars thread and not the SAaB thread . . . how odd
                              As were mine...
                              Recently, there was a reckoning. It occurred on November 4, 2014 across the United States. Voters, recognizing the failures of the current leadership and fearing their unchecked abuses of power, elected another party as the new majority. This is a first step toward preventing more damage and undoing some of the damage already done. Hopefully, this is as much as will be required.

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