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  • Looney
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    Originally posted by Triple F View Post
    flimsy explanations for the big bad, or the crew falling apart under stress and one of them goes on a rampage, can be a bit jarring at times. It’s like, here’s the situation – don’t worry about how we got here it’s not important – just enjoy all the great violence, shaky cam, and screaming.
    Exactly!

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  • Triple F
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    Originally posted by Looney View Post
    I didn't mean the original would have worked just a well if it were just a monster from space.
    I missed the bit where you said you loved the original, my bad – but yeah, flimsy explanations for the big bad, or the crew falling apart under stress and one of them goes on a rampage, can be a bit jarring at times. It’s like, here’s the situation – don’t worry about how we got here it’s not important – just enjoy all the great violence, shaky cam, and screaming.

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  • Ubik
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    Originally posted by Looney View Post
    I didn't mean the original would have worked just a well if it were just a monster from space. I meant the movies that have come since the original Forbidden Planet that have tried to use a similar gimmick, like the monster feeds on your fear or the monster is already on the ship because you imagined it there. If it sounded like I was being critical of the original story I didn't mean to be. I was being critical of what the monsters from the id idea has inspired in movies since then. Event Horizon (1997) is an example. I believe that is a movie that would have been better if it had just been a monster movie instead of being about a portal to a hell-like dimension and, as a synopsis put it, the "entity" that comes through the portal. It isn't a monster it is an entity. So instead of being a monster from space in this Science Fiction movie it becomes a supernatural entity like a spirit or ghost or demon that happened to come through the portal Science Fiction created.
    Personally i really enjoy that angle in Event Horizon. It's hellish, tense and scary. Works perfectly. I'd rather have a cool idea supporting the monster than nothing at all. I'm really sick of seeing 'big bads' with flimsy as hell motivation / origin in both film, comics and literature.

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  • Looney
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    Originally posted by Triple F View Post
    Literally battling your inner demons. A cautionary tale of the dangers on letting technology evolve beyond our ability to understand and control it – along with a reminder that for all the trappings of our wonderful society, scratch below the surface, and we’re still animals. . . . . . This to you is an unnecessary gimmick in . . . a SCIENCE FICTION movie - and a monster from space would work just as well?
    I didn't mean the original would have worked just a well if it were just a monster from space. I meant the movies that have come since the original Forbidden Planet that have tried to use a similar gimmick, like the monster feeds on your fear or the monster is already on the ship because you imagined it there. If it sounded like I was being critical of the original story I didn't mean to be. I was being critical of what the monsters from the id idea has inspired in movies since then. Event Horizon (1997) is an example. I believe that is a movie that would have been better if it had just been a monster movie instead of being about a portal to a hell-like dimension and, as a synopsis put it, the "entity" that comes through the portal. It isn't a monster it is an entity. So instead of being a monster from space in this Science Fiction movie it becomes a supernatural entity like a spirit or ghost or demon that happened to come through the portal Science Fiction created.

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  • alpha128
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    Originally posted by Looney View Post
    I actually just bought the Blu-Ray of (the 2008 remake of "The Day the Earth Stood Still") from a friend, but only because it is the 3-Disc set that comes with the Blu-Ray of the original classic.
    I bought the two-disc special edition DVD of the original classic that was released to tie in with the remake. I remember remarking at the time that the only good thing about the remake was it resulted in a special edition DVD of the original.

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  • Triple F
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    Literally battling your inner demons. A cautionary tale of the dangers on letting technology evolve beyond our ability to understand and control it – along with a reminder that for all the trappings of our wonderful society, scratch below the surface, and we’re still animals. . . . . . This to you is an unnecessary gimmick in . . . a SCIENCE FICTION movie - and a monster from space would work just as well?

    As for this project possibly coming back to life. I really hope it does. Though I’m not fond of the idea of it turning into some kind of trilogy – as was suggested back in the day.
    Last edited by Triple F; 01-22-2018, 03:45 PM.

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  • Looney
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    Originally posted by alpha128 View Post
    Look at how the 2008 remake of "The Day the Earth Stood Still" turned out.
    I actually just bought the Blu-Ray of that remake from a friend, but only because it is the 3-Disc set that comes with the Blu-Ray of the original classic.

    The only reason I am interested in this project is because of JMS' involvement. I love the original, but on the whole I REALLY dislike the concept of monsters from the id. I'd rather have a monster that is just a monster. There doesn't need to be more of a fantastic explanation than it being a monster from space. I really dislike movies that take this idea and run with it. Just make it a monster. Don't use the gimmick that it somehow came from our subconscious because it suites your cinematic or budgetary needs. I feel that people working in Science Fiction often add details that just go too far and are unnecessary. They become fantastical for the sake of being fantastical. There are times when Babylon 5 seems guilty of this, but I forgive JMS because he usually pulls it off well and I know there reasons behind it or that he might have had something else he wanted to do with it down the road. But movies that come up with monsters that have things about them that just get more and more fantastical seem like they are trying too hard. Side rant aside, I know JMS will bring something new to the table for Forbidden Planet. I assume an official announcement is expected sometime around a Looney Skywatch date.

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  • alpha128
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    Originally posted by Jan View Post
    Just found this over on Twitter. A poster asked JMS if there were any plans to revive his Forbidden Planet script:


    That would be great news!
    In general, I'm tired of Hollywood remakes. Look at how the 2008 remake of "The Day the Earth Stood Still" turned out. Still, I'm confident that if anyone could create a worthy remake of this classic it would be JMS.

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  • B5-Stefan
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    Originally posted by Jan View Post
    Just found this over on Twitter. A poster asked JMS if there were any plans to revive his Forbidden Planet script:

    That would be great news!
    Yeees!
    Second-best choice for an upcoming JMS movie.
    (First: B5 movie

    Stefan

    --
    Garibaldi cooking Bagna cauda for himself and Dr. Franklin.
    Garibaldi: "Trust me, Doc, you are gonna love this!"
    Franklin: "I can feel my arteries hardening just being in the same room with it!"

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  • Jan
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    Just found this over on Twitter. A poster asked JMS if there were any plans to revive his Forbidden Planet script:

    Originally posted by JMS
    A well timed question. As it happens, a major production company with Warners has revived the Forbidden Planet script I wrote with @JimCameron. They feel that if they can get a big-enough name director on board this could be made to happen.
    That would be great news!

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  • Morden
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    Project still dead in the water...?

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  • Jan
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    Resurrecting a really old thread because I thought this was funny...and wouldn't it be cool if something actually came of it?

    Originally posted by JMichael Straczynski
    ‏@straczynski 1h1 hour ago
    @RealGDT Guillermo, if you're looking for a new project to direct, there's a Forbidden Planet draft sitting at Warners by me and @jimcameron
    Jan

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  • DaveNarn
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    I just saw the Blu ray version of Forbidden Planet and it transfered well - you can even see Robby's cardboard legs as he is sitting at the pilots station in the last scene.

    I got mine new for $6 + shipping from Amazon's list of new-used retailers.

    After today's viewing I got to thinking...
    JMS was just as inspired by Forbidden Planet as Gene Roddenberry.
    Even JJ Abraham's in his Trek movie made Uhura a Phonologist like Morbius.
    And although Roddenberry, being ahead of his time, couldn't be as cerebral with his version, he still borrowed plenty.

    This may be a stretch but I'm thinking JMS on the other hand was able to more fully embrace the Shakespearian theme and possibly define his epic war of order vs. chaos - as Morbius discovered with his inner struggle of good and evil.

    Now with talk of an eventual Forbidden Planet remake and and trend for prequels and alternate universes (Trek 2.0), is it possible the Bellerphon had missed the 'No Trespassing' warnings and landed on Altar-4, the abandoned Krell (Vorlon) home-world?

    Morbius had discovered at the time of their disappearance Krell (Vorlon) had devoted all their resources to one goal and he warned that mankind was yet unfit to receive such knowledge.
    He eventually found his own warning to be true.

    Not saying this will be the rewrite, but it would help define the Krell in a pretty cool alternate universe prequel.
    Last edited by DaveNarn; 09-08-2012, 02:55 AM.

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  • Dan Dassow
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    Originally posted by Jan View Post
    JMS was asked about "Forbidden Planet" on FB:

    Originally Posted by JMS
    Still at WB, still in search of a director who can do it. Don't know how Joel Silver leaving WB will affect that since it was through his company.
    Jan
    http://www.thewrap.com/deal-central/...thriller-43136

    Joel Silver Strikes 5-Year Deal With Universal, Opens With Liam Neeson Thriller
    Published: June 07, 2012 @ 10:37 am

    Hollywood megaproducer Joel Silver has made a 12-film deal with Universal Pictures that enlists the studio as SilverÆs new distribution partner, the studio announced on Thursday.

    It is not a production deal, so Universal is not on the hook to finance any of the movies. They are relying on Silver to go out and find financing and then bring the movies to Universal for the studio to turn a profit. The studio does have the option of financing projects in various ways.

    That means Silver, who has been based on the Warner Bros. lot, will not set up shop on Universal turf. Though still on the Warners lot, he will be moving his whole team to temporary offices in western Los Angeles before establishing a new headquarters.

    Silver has worked with Warner Bros. for the past 25 years, but his production deal with the studio lapses at the end of 2012 and it will not be renewed. ...

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  • Jan
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    JMS was asked about "Forbidden Planet" on FB:

    Originally posted by JMS
    Still at WB, still in search of a director who can do it. Don't know how Joel Silver leaving WB will affect that since it was through his company.
    Jan

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