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  • #46
    I'd be happy with a different director anyway. Someone else will probably come in and like the script; this doesn't necessarily mean any delays.

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    • #47
      Max Brooks will be at Wizard World in Philly this weekend, so I'll try and ask him if he knows what's up...
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      • #48
        Excellent, thanks Frulad!

        Jan
        "As empathy spreads, civilization spreads. As empathy contracts, civilization contracts...as we're seeing now.

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        • #49
          OK, its true. They are looking for a new writer.

          And Max Brooks, an admitted B5 fan, sounded a bit annoyed by it all.
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          • #50
            Is this something that Brooks said in a panel, Frulad, or was it an interview? If true, it's a shame because JMS would have kept the integrity of the book in his script.

            Jan
            "As empathy spreads, civilization spreads. As empathy contracts, civilization contracts...as we're seeing now.

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            • #51
              I missed his panel Friday night, so this was in an impromptu interview. He knew I was media and he grabbed my recorder and spoke directly into it.
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              • #52
                Thanks, Frulad. I asked because he doesn't seem to have said anything in his panel(s) that I can find. And while I don't doubt that he said it, I can't help but wonder how much knowledge he's likely to have...though given who his father is, he might be more 'in the loop' than most writers would be.

                Let's hope that if there is a re-write that Plan B has more class than Top Cow was a while back.

                Jan

                ETA: Looks like somebody possibly involved with the original article may have responded to what I wrote on the moderated newsgroup. Unfortunately I can't get the link to work this morning.

                Manuel Puppis View profile
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                Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.moderated
                From: Manuel Puppis <[email protected]>
                Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 19:10:47 +0200
                Local: Sat, Jun 20 2009 1:10 pm
                Subject: Re: Bad news on WWZ ?


                > That seems odd to me and I wonder if it might be a bad translation from the
                > original interview? After all, JMS posted on Nov. 13 that he was finishing up
                > the script after having gotten the director's notes.
                > http://jmsnews.com/msg.aspx?ID=1-17739&topic=Writing
                > As fast as he writes, in the past 7 months he could've re-written the thing 5
                > times by now!


                I didn't translate it, but unfortunately the translation is correct. If
                you want to read the interview:
                Das Migros-Magazin ist die Wochenzeitung der Migros. Darin finden Sie das Neuste aus der Migros-Welt, Tipps für den Alltag und was die Gesellschaft bewegt.
                ETA2: Can't find the poster's name on the interview so maybe he's just somebody who can read it in the original language. The translation seems clear using the online translation programs I've found.
                Last edited by Jan; 06-21-2009, 07:48 AM.
                "As empathy spreads, civilization spreads. As empathy contracts, civilization contracts...as we're seeing now.

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                • #53
                  JMS has answered now:

                  One of the things that distinguishes film from TV is that it's the
                  norm for a script to go through many, many hands on the way to
                  production, which is why you see so many writers' names on movies.
                  (As a parenthetical, so you can follow the process better, when you
                  see "Written by A & B" it means that A and B were actually
                  collaborators on the film, whereas "Written by A and B" means that B
                  was brought in separately.) Ivan Reitman, for instance, always has
                  one writer do a pass for character, another does a pass for humor,
                  another does a pass for action...and so on. This is just part of the
                  feature business, especially once a director comes on board, who may
                  have ideas of his own that he wants to incorporate and the original
                  writer has gone through all the contractual drafts, so that either you
                  re-hire the same guy, or bring in fresh eyes.

                  So yes, another pair of hands is now working to simplify the script,
                  which has always been as much a political thriller as an action film,
                  into something a bit more straightforward.

                  jms
                  "As empathy spreads, civilization spreads. As empathy contracts, civilization contracts...as we're seeing now.

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                  • #54
                    Well, that sucks. Probably trying to make it a more generic zombie film. Something tells me they won't bring in someone of JMS's ability to rewrite it.

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                    • #55
                      That sucks donkeyballs.

                      I'm very disappointed. I adore the book, which is really one of the most original and compelling books I've read in ages. And Joe was the perfect writer for the adaptation. If Max Brooks himself thinks they're killing it... yeah. Not good.

                      That's the biggest problem with being a writer in Hollywood. You have no control over your work. Another reason to work towards being a writer/director, if one is so inclined.
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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by jms
                        So yes, another pair of hands is now working to simplify the script,
                        ...
                        into something a bit more straightforward.
                        Originally posted by ninjrk View Post
                        Well, that sucks. Probably trying to make it a more generic zombie film.
                        Sure sounds like it. "More straightforward" sounds like "more mindless and easier to market to the popcorn crowd."

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                        • #57
                          be interesting to see if JMS even keeps his name on his after the rewrite. He has been known to take his name of things that are taken out of his control or he didn't feel he played a large part in.
                          "Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, Champagne in one hand - strawberries in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming WOW - What a RIDE!"

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                          • #58
                            This is disappointing. I've been looking forward to this beyond many other movies after reading WWZ, which was a great book. I have been wondering how on earth they plan to make that into a coherent movie and actually keep the book's story in tact.
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                            • #59
                              JMS responds to somebody over-thinking his WWZ post:

                              First, Joe's response to your note is exactly right on every count.

                              Second, on the broader semantic issue...I wouldn't say dispassionate
                              was the right word, because I'm very passionate about everything I
                              work on, especially when I believe strongly in something.

                              The difference, and this may be the key word, is that for the last
                              two, three years, ever since Changeling switched my life upside-down,
                              I've been...calmer. It's really hard to explain, because I've lived
                              most of my life like a man running for a bus, but something *happened*
                              with that event, and the assignments afterward, and the people I've
                              been honored enough to work with. Rather than getting all puffed up
                              like a pouter-pigeon, it's made me quieter, calmer...things that used
                              to drive me batshit, no longer do.

                              So when another guy comes onto WWZ, as is the tendency of the business
                              (I get 2-5 feature scripts per *week* with offers to rewrite, most of
                              which I turn down because I look at the name of the writer on the
                              cover and know I'm not fit to carry that person's pencil-box let alone
                              rewrite them), it's okay, not just because that's the nature of the
                              feature world, but because...well...I'm honestly okay with it. And if
                              that moves it closer to getting produced, I'm even more okay with it.

                              A lot of the people around me keep looking at me with that whole
                              Invasion of the Body Snatchers "who ARE you and what have you done
                              with Joe?" look in their eyes, because they've never really seen me
                              quiet, or centered.

                              With Changeling, and the work thereafter, I kind of proved what I set
                              out to prove. It's kind of like Zack in SiL, where he talks about how
                              they did everything they set out to do. I've ended up in my own
                              narrative, which is REALLY weird, but all the same...it's just a
                              really happy time. I've doing some of the best work of my career, I'm
                              busier than at any time in my professional life, including B5, and I'm
                              working with some amazing, amazing people.

                              But I'll try to find something to get cranky about. Old habits die
                              hard, after all.

                              jms
                              Jan
                              "As empathy spreads, civilization spreads. As empathy contracts, civilization contracts...as we're seeing now.

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                              • #60
                                Looks like they've chosen the new writer for WWZ.
                                Now taking on the adaptation reins is Matthew Michael Carnahan, a specialist in political thrillers whose credits include STATE OF PLAY and THE KINGDOM.
                                Jan
                                "As empathy spreads, civilization spreads. As empathy contracts, civilization contracts...as we're seeing now.

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