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    Title: from jms: research help
    Author: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
    Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 23:00:36 -0700 (PDT)
    Message-ID: <6e3b98[email protected]>

    I apologize for the cryptic nature of what follows, but in time this
    will all be cleared up.

    Starting mid-July into August and possibly September, I'm going to be
    traveling quite a lot in researching a new movie project that I
    cannot, for the moment, announce. (Not Lensman, this is a different
    project, and I've already started on Lensman.) Suffice to say that
    the research stage is going to be extensive in the extreme.

    The main emphasis is on advanced technology. If someone who can do
    the math were to look down the road a million years and see what
    advances might be there, based on what we know now, what would that
    look like? Advanced tech here covers warfare, living, toys,
    environment, health, media, space travel, you name it. Everything
    that a civilization a million years more advanced than we are might
    use or encounter.

    Secondarily to this would be information on planetary physics and
    alien biology.

    To that effect, my intent is to visit as many of the following places
    as possible: NASA Florida, the Wright-Paterson Air Force Base High
    Technology Labs, MIT, CalTech, and any other places that seem like
    good prospects. (If there's anything missing from that list, feel
    free to add it.) I'm going to listen, ask questions, and try to keep
    up. And no, there's no money involved, though if anyone proves to be
    insanely helpful, I can try to work out a consulting credit. No

    The studio is going to help with some of the legwork here, they say
    they can get me into Wright-Pat, but we'll see...even so, the ways of
    studios grind very slowly. So I turn to you lot for assistance since
    a number of you either are, or know someone who is, directly involved
    with this stuff.

    So...let the games begin.

    "As empathy spreads, civilization spreads. As empathy contracts, civilization we're seeing now.

  • #2
    I should know about this stuff because my wife is always saying i'm on another planet.
    Duracell Bunny is arrested and charged with BATTERY!!


    • #3
      Joking aside - WOW
      Duracell Bunny is arrested and charged with BATTERY!!


      • #4
        Jeez, everything's always a million years in the future with Joe.
        Only a fool fights in a burning house.


        • #5
          He does like big round numbers, doesn't he!

          Wow, I wonder what this is about? One of the many things I like about JMS is how hard he tries to get "it" right. Whether the "it" is science, history, or whatever.

          I hope we really are entering a second golden age of Straczynski!


          • #6
            I always thought he pretty much got it right in "The Deconstruction of Falling Stars" as to what we'd be like in a million years time, evoloved into beings of light with godlike powers [technology].
            Trying to imagine what things will be like in a million years time is almost impossible though as at the moment, development in technology is on an expidential rate of increase. In other words we're seeing massive leaps ahead in computing power and other breakthroughs in a matter of years. It also invokes the Arthur C. Clake law of advanced technology which states: anything that is sufficiently advanced will be seen as magic. Thus I doubt anyone will be able to envisage/identify specfic advances or what things will look like in a million years hence.

            However this is all moot.

            What needs to happen is that we don't wipe ourselves out or blow ourselves back into a dark age due to wars over resources.
            Sadly though, I don't feel very optimistic about the future for humanity.
            I think the game "Fallout" is the most likely scenario/fate for us all for the 21st century - in other words, we're heading for a very grim time ahead.

            A glimpse of the future
            Last edited by Talwyn; 06-19-2008, 04:37 PM.


            • #7
              On a program called 'Space' with Sam Neill, A part of it went into explaining how our planet sits in an area where all is well, and life can flourish. However that band is moving outwards because the sun is getting hotter.

              Now the timescale for this is obviously longer than the Million years JMS is talking about, but the planet is (so they say) getting warmer.

              We are also using the planets resources at an alarming rate. Think of us as being like virus - we multiply exponentially and consume everything around us.

              I think in 1 million years ( if we survive MANY wars) we may not have a choice to be here - we will be somewhere else or we will become extinct.
              Duracell Bunny is arrested and charged with BATTERY!!


              • #8
                Of course, JMS doesn't need to accurately predict what the tech will be like in a million years, he merely needs to depict tech that people will accept as being a million years more advanced. The same thing that makes it hard for anyone to extrapolate that far into the future prevents audiences from accepting it when they see it. If they accurately predicted things, the audience would probably react negatively feeling that it was too wild or fantastic.
                "That was the law, as set down by Valen. Three castes: worker, religious, warrior."


                • #9
                  Would JMS be open to suggestions from B5 fans who are not rocket scientists?
                  Duracell Bunny is arrested and charged with BATTERY!!


                  • #10
                    Quote ''I apologize for the cryptic nature of what follows, but in time this
                    will all be cleared up. ''

                    Is JMS being cryptic? I'm sure he releases these little statements and then rubs his hands together and sniggers.

                    We are his cat toys.
                    Duracell Bunny is arrested and charged with BATTERY!!


                    • #11
                      Don't forget JMS doesn't read much if any here. Any good ideas connections or thoughts need to be posted to the newsgroup.
                      What a wonderful world you live in. -
                      Yeah, well, the rent is cheap, the pay is decent and I get to make my own hours.


                      • #12
                        Caution on Story Ideas

                        Originally posted by glindros View Post
                        Don't forget JMS doesn't read much if any here. Any good ideas connections or thoughts need to be posted to the newsgroup.
                        I believe JMS is more interested in points of contact and gaining access to certain people and facilities. I would offer the caution that those posting to RASTB5.mod should be careful not to post story ideas.

                        Dan Dassow


                        • #13
                          Well, Wayne Barlowe already worked on Thirdspace, and after reading "Expedition," he's usually the first name that comes into my head when I hear "world-building."

                          And Dougal Dixon, but I think they're enemies or somesuch.
                          "It's hard being an evil genius when everybody else is so stupid." -- Quantum Crook, Casey and Andy Webcomic


                          • #14
                            A million years is a mighty long time to try to extrapolate.

                            Recently I was sitting on a 1940s couch that had originally been in my grandfather's house working on my laptop when I was struck by a thought. As a kid (back in th 70s) I used to sit on that couch reading Asimov and Heinlein and I think my grandfather sort of looked down on what I was reading as just mindless fantasy. At the time, the computer that was now sitting on my lap would have taken up a substantial part of the room. That's just 30 years of progress.

                            Envisioning a million years into the future?

                            It seems like that's asking cro-magnon man to envision the theory of relativity or the internet.

                            Still, I'll be interested to see what JMS is up to...
                            Got movies?


                            • #15
                              Agreed, frulad, but I think "a million years" is more a figure of speech than a statement of any kind of time line.

                              And Cro-Magnon man is a lot more recent than a million years (in fact, he is us!) so even your extreme analogy falls short of what JMS is putatively asking.

                              The advent of technology from the first farming implements to today has only taken about 25,000 years, and the rate of technological acceleration is such that probably 90% of the things we use to make out lives easier were developed in the last 150 years, 50% in the last 50 years, and so forth. What things will generally be like in 100 years is difficult to predict; in 1,000 years nearly impossible, and one million years absurdly impossible.

                              Surely JMS knows this and is thus using a figure of speech.
                              I believe that when we leave a place, part of it goes with us and part of us remains. Go anywhere in the station, when it is quiet, and just listen. After a while, you will hear the echoes of all our conversations, every thought and word we've exchanged. Long after we are gone .. our voices will linger in these walls for as long as this place remains. But I will admit .. that the part of me that is going .. will very much miss the part of you that is staying.