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    JMS posted this to the moderated newsgroup. The moderators are trying to fix the situation in hopes that he'll come back.

    Title: I'm Gone
    Author: [email protected]
    Date: 18 Jul 2006 01:22:23 -0700
    Message-ID: <[email protected] .com>

    Readers of this newsgroup have noted, and asked about, the reason why
    my postings here have been on the steady decline for some months now.

    The reason is that I have been reading, and thus replying, less than
    before, because it seems that nearly every thread have a posting by an
    individual who has dedicated himself to the task of insulting me on a
    constant basis, on a personal and professional basis. This nearly
    pathological obsession has manifested itself as, for lack of a better
    term, the death of a thousand papercuts. Each post is, on its own, as
    irrelevant and unimportant as he is, but in the aggregate becomes a
    constant note of insult. He remains in this group not to participate
    in the discussion, but to find some way to work an insult or derogatory
    comment about me at every possible opportunity. He is, for lack of a
    better term, going out of his way to shit on me in a place where he
    knows I have to read it...because that is his goal, to insult me where
    he knows that I hang out...because he's too much of a coward to do it
    to my face.

    I'm not talking about critical opinions of a show, or disagreements,
    I'm talking about bald-faced insults, affronts, digs and offense on a
    personal and professional nature that have no business here.

    I have discussed this previously with the moderators, who say they are
    powerless to keep him out, that he has made it clear to them that he
    does not and will not respect the will of either the moderators or the
    members of this newsgroup, who he views with utter contempt, as
    evidenced in the many messages in which he has described the members of
    this group as "joe worshippers" and terms too vile for me to repeat.
    He has stated to the moderators that if he is forced to leave, that he
    will simply join again under a different ISP or a different name, that
    the group must and will be held hostage to his conviction that the
    moderators have no authority over him, that he can ignore the purpose
    of this group, which is in part to provide a buffer zone between me and
    net-stalkers, and that his right to be here outweighs the right of the
    group or anyone in that group to keep him out, myself included.

    A writer has only three resources: time, energy and visceral material,
    and when those are being spent being pissed off, when every message
    thread you'd otherwise like to participate in gets hijacked and
    polluted by a dozen new insults, snide asides or affronts, you just
    stop reading because life's too short.

    Since the moderators cannot remove this individual due to his threats
    to remain no matter their actions, or the intentions or guidelines of
    this group, it seems that I therefore have no choice but to absent
    myself from this group. It is for this reason that I have already
    mainly stopped reading and posting, and the members of this group, who
    have participated in good faith for so long, deserve an explanation.

    With luck, my departure will remove this individual's reason for being
    here, and at least the group can return to a discussion of the pros and
    cons of the show without his presence, because my absence will have
    taken all the fun out of it.

    jms
    Let's hope for the best or that he'll at least post professional updates on the group from time to time.

    Jan
    "As empathy spreads, civilization spreads. As empathy contracts, civilization contracts...as we're seeing now.

  • #2
    Damn shame...
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    • #3
      Forum trolls.

      I swear on every message board I am part of there are these forum trolls. The band "the Chameleons" has a message board and there are people who log in there every day and have no interest in the band whatsoever. In fact, the slag them every chance they get. Is there some sort of saddistic purpose to this?

      It's too bad moderators don't have a file that they can drop into the offenders's computer that make's it impossible for him to return to the site. Yeah, anything could be removed but ti would be great if everytime he created a new persona, they drop him the bug.
      "If I could be a bird, I'd be a Flying Purple People Eater because then people would sing about me and I could fly down and eat them because I hate that song. " - Jack Handey

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      • #4
        some board management software offers IP based blocking I suppose it's easier in ireland, all isps have an Ip address block so If I got hassle from someone on my boards (who was Irish) I'd just contact the [email protected] email of their ISP and get them blocked, there's only about 4 ISPs operating here so your field narrows VERY quickly.
        Phaze
        on teh "hate trolls and will come down like the proverbial bricks on any on his boards" ID
        "There are no good wars. War is always the worst possible way to resolve differences. It degenerates and corrupts both sides to ever more sordid levels of existence, in their need to gain an advantage over the enemy. Those actively involved in combat are almost always damaged goods for the rest of their lives. If their bodies don't bear scars, their minds do, ofttimes both. Many have said it before, but it can't be said to enough, war is hell. "

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        • #5
          Usenet's....different. We'll see what happens.

          Jan
          "As empathy spreads, civilization spreads. As empathy contracts, civilization contracts...as we're seeing now.

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          • #6
            Some people are such arseholes
            http://www.lddb.com/collection.php?a...er=dgtwoodward
            Yes, I still collect Laserdiscs!!
            47" Phillips 1080p 46" Samsung 1080p Toshiba HD-30E (2 both Multi Region) PS3-80G 120G BR Multi-Region Maidstone MD-BR-2102 Sky-HD Freesat-HD Pioneer DVL-909 CLD-D925 CLD-2950 (AC3) CLD-D515 CLD S315 Yamaha ADP-1 Meridian 519 Pioneer 609 (DD/DTS) x 2 Speakers & subs Jammo M/S Pioneer Technics Sony Eltax Akai Aiwa

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            • #7
              Although a very sad turn of events, (I think I've been reading rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.moderated since 1993!) is usenet really the best mechanism for this kind of interaction going forwards? It's always going to be difficult to control the trolls, perhaps some kind of blog based site for JMS is going to be better from now on?

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              • #8
                That is a great shame.

                I partly blame the moderators, they could definetly have taken care of this. Just block the poster every time he registers, and refuse to let his posts in. Sooner or later he will grow tired of it.

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                • #9
                  This is pretty bad news for the B5 community as a whole. One reason we're still so active is because of his regular interaction with our relatively compact fanbase. Here's to hoping things go well...
                  Tyrant Administrator of FirstOnes.com

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                  • #10
                    Conditional return

                    Just found this:

                    Title: Re: I'm Gone
                    Author: [email protected]
                    Date: 18 Jul 2006 22:12:33 -0700
                    Message-ID: <[email protected] .com>

                    Laura Appelbaum wrote:
                    > "Chris Patterson" <[email protected].com> wrote in message
                    > news:[email protected]
                    >
                    > > I must admit I'm a bit surprised about this -- maybe because I killfiled
                    > > ("created a filter" in MT-Newswatcher parlance) Mr. Harper some time ago
                    > > and haven't seen his posts. Was there some reason you could not do so?
                    > > It would seem a less drastic step than leaving the group completely. I
                    > > don't want to seem disrespectful here -- it's just the engineer in me
                    > > trying to find a way to fix things.
                    > >
                    > I ditto that, especially since, as a Luddite, I just don't click on and
                    > expand/read posts from people I don't want to listen to. It doesn't even
                    > require a computer program/filter to do that. I guess the temptation to see
                    > what the jerk was saying was just too great for jms to avoid.
                    >
                    > LMA

                    The problem with killfiles is, of course, that when the system quotes
                    messages, they get repeated.

                    I've now had several email conversations with the moderators, who have
                    given me their assurances that this will be fixed henceforth, and asked
                    that I give the process another shot. In the spirit of cooperation,
                    I'm willing to give them the opportunity to demonstrate that. So we'll
                    take this one step at a time, and I will give them, and the process,
                    the benefit of the doubt.

                    My apologies for the fray, but sometimes a raised public voice is the
                    only way to get done what private inertia obstructs. That being done,
                    let's see if we can make this work.

                    So: onward.

                    jms
                    Jan
                    "As empathy spreads, civilization spreads. As empathy contracts, civilization contracts...as we're seeing now.

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                    • #11
                      yay! go JMS.
                      I'll post to the group when I get home.
                      Phaze
                      on the "happy to have him back" ID
                      "There are no good wars. War is always the worst possible way to resolve differences. It degenerates and corrupts both sides to ever more sordid levels of existence, in their need to gain an advantage over the enemy. Those actively involved in combat are almost always damaged goods for the rest of their lives. If their bodies don't bear scars, their minds do, ofttimes both. Many have said it before, but it can't be said to enough, war is hell. "

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                      • #12
                        I know blocking people can be a problem with people still using Dail up connections because everytime you Dial up you have I differant ISP address where Cable and DSL users always(more or Less) have the same ISP address. I hope the mods can keep this person out because I like everyone else here enjoy JMS's insight. anyways here hoping
                        "Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, Champagne in one hand - strawberries in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming WOW - What a RIDE!"

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                        • #13
                          It'll definitely take more vigilance, and that, I think is what's been lacking over the past year or so. Thing is, the original mods have had a fairly rough time of it recently and hadn't been actually reading all the posts, just watcxhing out for 'hot spots'. Now there's folks who'll be on the lookout if the troublemaker continues to morph.

                          Jan
                          "As empathy spreads, civilization spreads. As empathy contracts, civilization contracts...as we're seeing now.

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                          • #14
                            I am in on the happy dance and hope for a safer and more productive experience for all in the future.

                            I don't know what the purpose is for the people who caused this other than, like an arson, getting a thrill out of other people's misery and boasting how they started it.
                            They're famous in the worst way, kind of like a Ted Bundy... you want to reach through the ether, hunt them down and kill them like the dogs they are.

                            ::calming breath::

                            I'm better now.
                            Here's to a pest free environment.
                            "It is what I have done with where I have been that should be of interest." - Georgia O'Keefe

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