JMS Year-end update

[AaronB]

The cynical me is pretty sure that if JMS says exactly the same thing as he's said for the past 11 years, people will still insist that he's covering something up. If he actually adds any information we haven't seen before they'll scream that he's been lying to us all this time.

"Either way, does not look good for poor 'Joethras'."

Jan

Just like with the Kennedy assination. I know the government is covering something up.

[Jan]

Question Jan I once heard a rumor that MOH did not get along with a member of the B5 cast do you have any info on this ?

That doesn't ring a bell with me, Satai Delenn. But then, I've generally hung out where JMS was so I probably missed most of that sort of thing. The one I remember hearing the most about MO'H was that he had trouble learning the dialogue. Which didn't match well with JMS saying that he memorized everybody in the line of believers in 'Parliament' in one go so I rather discounted that, too.

Jan

[Satai Delenn]

Just like with the Kennedy assination. I know the government is covering something up.


Oh please that is not in the same category.Let's not go there.



That doesn't ring a bell with me, Satai Delenn. But then, I've generally hung out where JMS was so I probably missed most of that sort of thing. The one I remember hearing the most about MO'H was that he had trouble learning the dialogue. Which didn't match well with JMS saying that he memorized everybody in the line of believers in 'Parliament' in one go so I rather discounted that, too.


Rumor that's all it was whether the rest of what was said is true or not frankly I don't care my only hope is that he makes some effort to shut some fans up about the matter it has been 11 years it gets a little redundant after a while .The part of MOH not being able remember lines almost made laugh .

[Sigma]

I only know that Peter Jurasik said in IGN FilmeForce interview that MOH was horribly miscast.

[Sigma]

I searched and found that Jurasik interview (Nov '02)
direct link to page 5 - http://filmforce.ign.com/articles/377/377726p5.html

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IGNFF: Believe me, the caveat will be left in. Michael O'Hare.

JURASIK: Oh boy, what a place to start. Difficult, miscast û miscasting; probably more painful for him than for anybody else ... I found him horribly miscast in the role of trying to be a leader. A young actor, an actor who'd never done a television, to try to step in and become "number one on the call sheet"... try to be the leader... you need someone like Bruce Boxleitner, who's done it before and has the personality for it. Michael O'Hare was way too insecure ... I will leave mine in saying, horribly miscast and probably more painful for him than anybody else.
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[Satai Delenn]

I only know that Peter Jurasik said in IGN FilmeForce interview that MOH was horribly miscast.

Do you know when Peter gave this interview ?And where I might find if it's still available that is .

[Sigma]

lol, i must have some sort of telepathic skills

[Jan]

I only know that Peter Jurasik said in IGN FilmeForce interview that MOH was horribly miscast.

Could be. Maybe that's one reason why he might have been willing/glad to step aside when approached by JMS. Me, unless I was the most secure actor in the world, I'd've gotten an inferiority complex from being on the same set with the likes of Jurasik and Katsulas, that's for sure!

My point has always been that over the years of reading JMS's posts and asking many many questions, I've 'caught' him in a whole lot of truths but never a lie. I've seen him skirt issues and ignore posts and not discuss many things but when he's said something's true or told stories about the show I've fairly frequently been able to corroborate them on my own-sometimes years later (one sample of which is here). The fact that he's been so detailed about what happened and so vociferous about saying it convinced me that what he said was on the up-and-up. Other people's mileage varies and I'd be willing to bet that, whatever he says in Volume 3, most people won't change their opinions anyway.

Jan

[Sigma]

My point has always been that over the years of reading JMS's posts and asking many many questions, I've 'caught' him in a whole lot of truths but never a lie. I've seen him skirt issues and ignore posts and not discuss many things but when he's said something's true or told stories about the show I've fairly frequently been able to corroborate them on my own-sometimes years later (one sample of which is here). The fact that he's been so detailed about what happened and so vociferous about saying it convinced me that what he said was on the up-and-up. Other people's mileage varies and I'd be willing to bet that, whatever he says in Volume 3, most people won't change their opinions anyway.

Sorry, but i completly miss your point. Is the 'point' that we learn the truth in Volume3?

I only wrote that Jurasik said MOH was horribly miscast. Thats his opinion. It has nothing to do with JMS.

Jan, whats your theory about MOH departure? What has JMS said about it? My theory is that it had to do with higher powers wanting to replace him (i think i read it somewhere).

[Satai Delenn]

Interesting reading about PJ's opinion of MOH I could not disagree more but that is of course his opinion and not mine I loved his character since the gathering and thought he did a fine job.BB may have more experience but some of his performances stunk ,sure I like the character of Sheridan but he lacked 'a sort of chemistry' with the cast .MOH did alot in the chemistry part especially with JD's Garibaldi .But that last part is entirely another topic .

[Jan]

No, my point is that JMS told us what happened back when it happened. One of the many posts that tells it briefly is here. Many people believe that network PTBs wanted Michael out and forced JMS to replace him. JMS has said that it was his idea, arrived at as he was planning out the next part of the arc, and that MO'H had his own concerns, too, so they parted ways mutually and amicably. The point I was illustrating is *why* I believe JMS was telling the truth, based on my independantly corroborating many other truths.

Jan

[Sigma]

Interesting reading about PJ's opinion of MOH I could not disagree more but that is of course his opinion and not mine I loved his character since the gathering and thought he did a fine job.BB may have more experience but some of his performances stunk ,sure I like the character of Sheridan but he lacked 'a sort of chemistry'than MOH brought to the screen .

I'm big Sinclair fan, but i disagree with you. I think MOH was ok in Sinclar role (and like i said in previous sentence, i'm very big Sinclair fan), but he is the definition of 'wooden' acting.

btw just read what other actors said about MOH, Furst said that "Just a real strange guy, kind of quiet. I think very insecure.". I think these IGN interviews are the best ones made, alot of information about actors, basicly their whole filmography with comments.

edit. other interesting comment in Furst interview i missed - (IGNFF: Was there a feeling that he wasn't meshing well with the rest of the cast?, FURST: Yes.)

[Sigma]

Thanks for link, Jan. So JMS basicly 'fired' MOH (i'm not meaning it any negative way)!

[Satai Delenn]

btw just read what other actors said about MOH, Furst said that "Just a real strange guy, kind of quiet. I think very insecure.". I think these IGN interviews are the best ones made, alot of information about actors, basicly their whole filmography with comments. 

I am trying to understand what they are saying It sounds like what PJ and Stephen Furst are basically thought of MOH as a person and and an actor.I have to go by what they both say since I don't know the man personally. I think I remember reading in an interview that he was diffcult to work with due to personal problems anyway .but my comment was about his acting performance as Sinclair was superb in the role and I know almost all B5 fans think of him as 'wooden' very few I have found think otherwise .

[Jan]

Thanks for link, Jan. So JMS basicly 'fired' MOH (i'm not meaning it any negative way)!

He quit *and* JMS fired him, maybe.

Jan