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    CIVIL WAR (comic book)

    Besides me, only one other person posted an opinion on Civil War #1.

    As I recall, a lot of people had loads (steaming?) of speculation/rants/opinions BEFORE its publication.

    Lets get some thoughts.

    I admit it's hard to judge a whole mini until it's read from beginning to end. Let's try to base opinions on just issue #1, okay?
    "I am just a worthless liar. I am just an embecile. I will only complicate you, trust in me and fall as well. I will find a center in you; I will chew it up and leave. I will work to elevate you, just enough to bring you down. Why can't we drink forever? I just want to start this over!" TOOL
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    Thoughts on that final scene in #2?
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    • #3
      Personally, I think it contradicts four decade's worth of continuity, but that's just me. Although I would have liked to be a fly on the wall when the writers and editors were debating the issue; those discussions were probably more interesting than the book itself.

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      • #4
        Marvel can go screw. It's just more and more shit from them every week. Joe Q may be the worst editor in forever in terms of the crap he's let writers get away with. Who thought up this crap? Was it JMS? I want to know whom to properly hate.

        Thank God I'm not paying for this crap.
        "I don't find myself in the same luxury as you. You grew up in freedom, and you can spit on freedom, because you don't know what it is not to have freedom." ---Ayaan Hirsi Ali

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        • #5
          I read about this at TSM.

          If Peter was Psichosis and Marvel was ECW:

          Spoiler:
          "PUT YOUR MASK ON!"

          ::clap clap::

          "PUT YOUR MASK ON!"


          Yeah, DC is totally owning Marvel's ass right now. And that ass is getting reamed. Just think...Brave New World and the NEW Justice League of America by Brad Meltzer aren't even out yet.

          I just hope Superman Returns doesn't kill their momentum.
          Recently, there was a reckoning. It occurred on November 4, 2014 across the United States. Voters, recognizing the failures of the current leadership and fearing their unchecked abuses of power, elected another party as the new majority. This is a first step toward preventing more damage and undoing some of the damage already done. Hopefully, this is as much as will be required.

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          • #6
            If anybody is interested, Civil War writer Mark Millar is putting together a heavy-duty series of auctions to benefit research into Crohn's disease, a malady which he himself suffers from. He's also got lots of other people to participate including the folks from Lost and Doctor Who, Joss Whedon and plenty more. If you want to read more about the auctions, check out this link:

            Newsarama | GamesRadar+
            http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/CivilWar/MillarCrohnsAuction.html


            As Millar points out, this is a disease that could be potentially within months of being resolved as far as a vaccine. The British doctor who is spearheading the research believes they're very close to that point, but with funding cuts in the UK, they're going to need some help from the public, so this seems a very good place to start. In addition to the auctions, they're also accepting private donations, and frankly I can't think of a better place to spend a couple of bucks.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Joe Nazzaro
              If anybody is interested, Civil War writer Mark Millar is putting together a heavy-duty series of auctions to benefit research into Crohn's disease, a malady which he himself suffers from. He's also got lots of other people to participate including the folks from Lost and Doctor Who, Joss Whedon and plenty more. If you want to read more about the auctions, check out this link:

              Newsarama | GamesRadar+
              http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/CivilWar/MillarCrohnsAuction.html


              As Millar points out, this is a disease that could be potentially within months of being resolved as far as a vaccine. The British doctor who is spearheading the research believes they're very close to that point, but with funding cuts in the UK, they're going to need some help from the public, so this seems a very good place to start. In addition to the auctions, they're also accepting private donations, and frankly I can't think of a better place to spend a couple of bucks.
              Joe,

              Thanks for pointing this out. My daughter suffers from Chron's as well so I'll definately be bidding. Winning is another story all together.
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              • #8
                At this point, we need the Scarlet Witch to reboot reality again so that this Civil War nonsense never existed.
                "I don't find myself in the same luxury as you. You grew up in freedom, and you can spit on freedom, because you don't know what it is not to have freedom." ---Ayaan Hirsi Ali

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                • #9
                  I have never been able to understand the snootiness that Marvel fans display; it's as if they think Marvel is so much better than DC and if you like DC then you are an uncultured twit. DC fans, by and large, are indifferent to Marvel, or they read both.

                  DC had a bad run in the 80s and it gets shit for it while Marvel gets a free pass. Why? Maybe because DC fans AREN'T uncultured twits.
                  Recently, there was a reckoning. It occurred on November 4, 2014 across the United States. Voters, recognizing the failures of the current leadership and fearing their unchecked abuses of power, elected another party as the new majority. This is a first step toward preventing more damage and undoing some of the damage already done. Hopefully, this is as much as will be required.

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                  • #10
                    More to the point, why are there "Marvel" and "DC" fans anyway? Why can't comic fans just be fans of the comics that they like regardless of who publishes them?

                    That would be like someone telling me that they didn't watch B5 when it was on the UK because they are BBC1 fans and would never watch something on C4 because it's rubbish.

                    Man ... humans are weird.
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                    The Pessimist: The glass is half empty
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                    • #11
                      It's always this way.

                      You were on either Snoop and Dre or Eazy-E's side.

                      You liked WCW or WWF.

                      Ad infinitum.

                      But you KNOW that people who claim only one side like both.

                      I have always read both. Punisher, DD and X-Men were the titles I liked from Marvel. For some time, though, I stopped reading ALL DC/Marvel because I was tired of the nonsense. I kept on with GI Joe, though. After reading the idea behind 52, I knew that I had to try it. I am happy that I did, as it's an excellent, excellent series.
                      Recently, there was a reckoning. It occurred on November 4, 2014 across the United States. Voters, recognizing the failures of the current leadership and fearing their unchecked abuses of power, elected another party as the new majority. This is a first step toward preventing more damage and undoing some of the damage already done. Hopefully, this is as much as will be required.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Garibaldi's Hair
                        Man ... humans are weird.
                        Yes, they are... I mean, "we" are.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by frulad
                          Yes, they are... I mean, "we" are.
                          Speak for yourself. I'm just highly improbable.

                          Jan
                          "As empathy spreads, civilization spreads. As empathy contracts, civilization contracts...as we're seeing now.

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                          • #14
                            Speaking to Marvel snobbery, I remember that someone in Marvel editorial, back when the "Sleepwalker" series was being published, described that comic as "Sandman done right", which is about as unintentionally hilarious a comment you'll ever find from the world of comics.

                            As for why people have to pick sides: you have some people who were raised on one company or the other, but a lot of times you'll have people siding with a company that's putting out the better product. Like now, D.C.'s stuff is mostly awesome. Marvel keeps putting out dogshit and Quesada keeps ignoring any criticisms.
                            "I don't find myself in the same luxury as you. You grew up in freedom, and you can spit on freedom, because you don't know what it is not to have freedom." ---Ayaan Hirsi Ali

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Karachi Vyce
                              Like now, D.C.'s stuff is mostly awesome.
                              Another thing is that DC is a lot more stable in the office. Marvel had too many shake ups in the post-Stan Lee era.

                              Man, I can't wait for JLA.
                              Recently, there was a reckoning. It occurred on November 4, 2014 across the United States. Voters, recognizing the failures of the current leadership and fearing their unchecked abuses of power, elected another party as the new majority. This is a first step toward preventing more damage and undoing some of the damage already done. Hopefully, this is as much as will be required.

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