i would like to know. Has JMS given up on making B5? I do know it is deficult to find the funding for B5 but i am sure that there is a way. personaly im not in position to help im still lerning. got about 6 more years b5 i have my diploma in moving images and give it a shot my self. i have so many ideas soch a big veriaty of posibilitys that can be explored. Im not a script righter nor do i want to write a script for B5 for the simple reason of that no one will do a B5 script better then JMS, but why dont he, does he not feel pashenatly about his chield as we do??
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Originally posted by Shadows the first onesi would like to know. Has JMS given up on making B5?
From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Is B5 dead?
To: rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.moderated
Date: 5/25/2005 11:24:08 PM
"Are we now reduced to hoping for a book once or twice a decade? Is
there any reason to have hope for more of what we love so much?
Is Babylon 5, as we know it....dead?"
This question comes up periodically, and I'll give it pretty much the
same answer that I always give...that there is a difference between
*dead* and *complete*.
If a novelist writes a book, and he doesn't write five more books in
that universe, with those characters, is the book dead? Or completed?
When I embarked on B5, I wasn't out to create a franchise, wasn't
looking to springboard this out into a zillion other projects...I
resisted merchandising, and made it clear to all parties that this
would be five seasons, no more. Because that's I figured it would take
me to tell that story. The only thing I asked of the universe was that
I be able to tell the story to its end, and that I not die before
finishing it. That's all.
And somehow, both happened...and I'm happy with that.
I've said it a hundred times before...if something happens to come up
in the B5 universe that's fun to tell, and someone wants to provide a
venue, great...if not, also great. I told the story that I wanted,
needed to tell. When Zack says, in SiL, "We did what we said we were
gonna do, and nobody can ever take that away from us," that was the
author speaking through him.
What I set out to do with that show, I did, and nobody can ever take
that away. I told the story I wanted to tell. Everything else is
lagniappe.
jms
Because the universe he created is so well thought out, so textured and detailed, there are other stories that can be told and he certainly wouldn't mind telling them. But he also has many other stories to tell, too. We've heard of some (Polaris, World on Fire) and can experience others (Spider-Man, Fantastic Four, the upcoming Book of Lost Souls etc.). As JMS wrote in July of 2003 after word came out that he wouldn't return to Jeremiah:
It's great that you want the next thing I do to be the same as the last thing I did. But that ain't why I'm in the game. I want the next thing I do to be *different* from the last thing I did.
It's the difference between having ten years of storytelling...or one year of
storytelling ten times.
I'd love to have more B5. Movie, TV series, books, comics...I don't care I'd love more. But I've also enjoyed his other work a lot, too. JMS wrote in February when he told us that TMoS wouldn't be happening that he has faith that one day there will be a B5 feature film. Once upon a time he also said the same about there being B5 DVDs and he was right.
I can wait.
Jan"As empathy spreads, civilization spreads. As empathy contracts, civilization contracts...as we're seeing now.
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I think that 'confining' jms to B-5 and its spin-offs is the same as if people would have forced the Beatles to play the same ol' style forever.
It was fantastic while it lasted, and perhaps some more will come our way sometime, but right now I personally consider the B-5 universe to be what jms wanted it to be.
We have seen what happens 1 million years from now in that universe, we have gone back to before the war with the Minbari. What more could you ask for if not just more of the same?
Nobody should add to a Picasso except perhaps Picasso himself. And I think that jms is doing other worthwhile stuff now."En wat als tijd de helft van echtheid was, was alles dan dubbelsnel verbaal?"
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Your right. But I guess, in the end it comes down to the luck of the draw. We had Crusade. We had LOTR. We would have had TMOS. JMS has not given up on his B5 universe, but I think it's just a lot more difficult to pull anything off now (taking into account various things, such as the entertainment industry as it is). And its easy to say "We did everything we set out to do" - But theres so much stuff left untold, granted a lot of which is in book form. I for one would like to see the many stories that unfold between Objects at Rest -> SIL on the screen. Although we kind of, well... did... It just got killed early.
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If I had my choice of which story to see next it would probably be the Telepath War. I want to see for sure what happened to Lyta and to Lennier.
Jan"As empathy spreads, civilization spreads. As empathy contracts, civilization contracts...as we're seeing now.
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Did I read somewhere that Lennier and Lyta were killed at the same time in an explosion, possibly blowing up a PsiCorps building? or was it separately?
There are so many bits and pieces of things out there it's hard to keep track of what is real and what's supposition.Flying around the room under my own power.
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Originally posted by Spoo JunkyDid I read somewhere that Lennier and Lyta were killed at the same time in an explosion, possibly blowing up a PsiCorps building? or was it separately?
There are so many bits and pieces of things out there it's hard to keep track of what is real and what's supposition.
Highlight to read semi-spoiler for Crusade episode:
In the original draft of "The Path of Sorrows", the teep who Mattheson helped was supposed to by Lyta. This had to change when an agreement wasn't reached with Pat Tallman. In the original draft, Lyta got her psi back and there was a shot in a hallway where she triumphantly calls Lennier's name. We were supposed to see a Minbari fighting from the back (no face). The next shot was the same explosion that was shown in the episode and the inferrance is that both were killed.
BUT since the script was revised, that scene can't be considered canon so we don't really know if that's what did/will happen.
Clear as mud, huh?
JanLast edited by Jan; 07-26-2005, 08:30 AM."As empathy spreads, civilization spreads. As empathy contracts, civilization contracts...as we're seeing now.
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Originally posted by Jan
Clear as mud, huh?
Jan
I guess she couldn't know what would happen since she's not a psychic, but I wouldn't expect Lyta to get in a situation like that with her "super-superhuman" teep powers. S--t happens, I supposeFlying around the room under my own power.
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Originally posted by Spoo JunkyI guess she couldn't know what would happen since she's not a psychic, but I wouldn't expect Lyta to get in a situation like that with her "super-superhuman" teep powers. S--t happens, I suppose
Jan"As empathy spreads, civilization spreads. As empathy contracts, civilization contracts...as we're seeing now.
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She may have got herself in the situation on purpose - it can't be easy to live with so much potential power (although I'm sure there are plenty out there who could, and not always with the best intentions).
But who can know what's in a person's head and what they intend to doSorry, I had to put that in there
Whatever the case, at least Bester couldn't fulfil the contract she signed when she rejoined the Corps.Score one point for Lyta
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Originally posted by Spoo JunkyShe may have got herself in the situation on purpose - it can't be easy to live with so much potential power (although I'm sure there are plenty out there who could, and not always with the best intentions).
But who can know what's in a person's head and what they intend to doSorry, I had to put that in there
Whatever the case, at least Bester couldn't fulfil the contract she signed when she rejoined the Corps.Score one point for Lyta
Okay, I checked the script. In the drafts where it's Lyta who was the prisoner, it seems that she used her power entirely-there was no mention of a transmitter. In the final revision, it was a homing device with a telepathic trigger that only Alison could activate and "Then the others will come." Of course, the explosion could have been something set off by the Psi Corps itself, too.
As for what was in her mind? I would hesitate to guess in this case. Lyta changed so much in the last season that it's hard to know if she fell into the 'something worth dying for' trap that others on the show did. Depriving Bester of his prize would have been a tick in the 'For' column, though, I'm sure!
Jan"As empathy spreads, civilization spreads. As empathy contracts, civilization contracts...as we're seeing now.
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