Vorlon

[Golan-Trevize]

This is my first post, I'm from Portugal, here we had B5 in 95 through 96 until the season 2 ep Hunter/Prey, but fortunatly there was a new cable channel in 01 with a programming director who communicated by email directly with the audience, by doing that I and other people were able to convince him to purchase the 5 seasons of B5 to his channel, after seing all the episodes I have one question/sorrow: Why can't we see the Vorlon Homeworld? is there any conceptual design that ilustrates it? It would be great if someone pass these questions to JMS.

[Jan]

Hello, Golan-Trevize, thank you for joining us!

This is my first post, I'm from Portugal, here we had B5 in 95 through 96 until the season 2 ep Hunter/Prey, but fortunatly there was a new cable channel in 01 with a programming director who communicated by email directly with the audience, by doing that I and other people were able to convince him to purchase the 5 seasons of B5 to his channel,

Congratulations. Having a channel so responsive to the audience must be great.

after seing all the episodes I have one question/sorrow: Why can't we see the Vorlon Homeworld? is there any conceptual design that ilustrates it? It would be great if someone pass these questions to JMS.

As far as I can remember, the only glimpses we had of the Vorlon homeworld was when we saw the flashback Lyta shared with Byron that revealed how the Vorlons had helped to create telepaths on the different worlds. I've never seen any concept art for it, either.

I think in a way, JMS has told us why we can't see or go to the Vorlon homeworld when Lyta said in "The Fall of Centauri Prime":

"The Vorlon homeworld is off limits until we're ready," says Lyta. "Until we've earned the right to go there, a million years from now." She doesn't know how she knows, but she does.

And we do see a million years into the future in "The Deconstruction of Falling Stars" when the 'ranger' watching the historical records seems to turn to energy and go into an encounter suit that looks a lot like the Vorlon suits did.

At least that's my impression.

Jan

[grumbler]

Any revelations of the Vorlon homeworld would be anticlimactic, I think.

One of the questions we never got an answer to, as far as I recall, is "to what extent was the 'extreme nature' of the purported Vorlon atmosphere designed merely to assist the Vorlons in remaining as inaccessable as possible?"

[vacantlook]

I don't remember where I read it, but for some reason, I remember jms having said once upon a time that if he ever really really showed what the Vorlon homeworld looked like, that he was going to reserve that for a feature film. Now again, I don't remember what I read or where I read it that has me seeming to remember him having said that, so I could easily be in error and it's all been a creation of my imagination.

[Capt.Montoya]

The Vorlon Homeworld is a state of mind, not a physical place, thus only those that are mentally ready can see it.

We humans won't be ready until a million years from now, according to JMS's cosmic philosophy of transcendence into more-energy-than-matter beings.

Maybe at that stage the atmosphere composition is a moot point and the fact that the Vorlons could survive in an "extreme atmosphere" (as grumbler put it) did not mean that they required that atmosphere, and it was just an excuse to wear an encounter suit.
In fact we had both evidence that they could live for some time in that atmosphere, and outside of it, in a regular terran atmosphere.

P.S: Welcome Golan-Trevize, you must be a fan of Asimov as myself, but I can't say I was that happy with those Foundation sequels. I've never liked the Gaia hypothesis and it was so overused back then that it inevitably dates those novels IMO.

[Aaron]

I think the Vorlons should remain a mystery as long as possible. One of the things I didn't like in the Technomage trilogy of books was that it had way too much Kosh stuff. I don't think that everything in the B5 universe needs to be explained. I fear if there are B5 movies in the distant future that the temptation to explain the Vorlons will be too great to pass up.

--Aaron

[WorkerCaste]

IIRC, there was another hint of what the Vorlon homeworld might be like. Wasn't that a Vorlon listening post that was destroyed by Whitestars near the end of the Shadow War? I think it was either "The Long Night" or "Into the Fire" when they had to take out a Vorlon post in order to hide what they were up to. The structures on the post might be indicative, at least in part, of what the Vorlons build.

[grumbler]

The structures on the post might be indicative, at least in part, of what the Vorlons build.

Unless that is just what they WANT you to think!

[Spoo Junky]

I don't exactly remember what the Vorlon colony looked like, but I do remember thinking when I saw it that it wasn't what I expected (not that I know what I expected exactly). Maybe it was just manned by aliens sympathetic to the Vorlons, like the races that helped the Shadows.

[Shadows the first ones]

bah vorlons pests!!! Presonaly i would like to see more of vorlons as they are not as they "want us tos ee them" And maybe there citys are not so colorful as we might think after all thats also what they migth want us to see, but i supose the only person that can answear that is jms as it is his imagination. Althou no one did say we cant let our imagination run wilde!!


Eh anyway id rather see more of shadows, one thing i was greatly disapointed in was that jms didnt realy make any good fight sence, in example, when kosh was killed by shadows all we seen was a grin on Mr Mordens face and few flashing lights.


ok im leave this post at that as my mind cant cach up with my toughts and now converting them to meaning full sentances is becoming hard.

[Shr'eshhhhhh]

I have the componant battle game sets. (The ones with hexagonal tiles for map parts?) and the picture representing the Vorlon homeworld shows a green Vorlonesque ringed floating city in the clouds. (Abit like a cross between Vorlon cruiser and Cloud City of The Empire Strikes Back) It looks rather nice.
However with all that Methane it proberbly smells awful.