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  • Garibaldi's Hair
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    Originally posted by jcbatz
    Yes, I understand that.

    It doesn't always work, though. I find, quite often, that a DVD of an opera is the same price (sometimes cheaper) than the same recording on CD. Production costs would be HIGHER on the DVD, would they not?
    Not necessarily. If the DVD was of a stage performance of an opera then you have the production costs of filming a production of the opera. For a studio recorded CD of the opera (as opposed to a live performance recording) production costs would probably be higher due to studio time, specialist recording, mixing and mastering engineers etc. So it depends on what is being compared.

    Also if the producers are expecting to sell more copies of the DVD than the CD (or are attempting to encourage more sales of the DVD than the CD) then that will affect pricing philosophy on top of costs.

    And adding another disc to a CD set shouldn't double the cost of production.
    Absolutely, I interpreted yout description of 4 CDs to mean 4 separate CDs, as you had described a DVD boxset of The SImpsons, but just 4 CDs. My bad.

    Of course this only holds true on new recordings. Re-releases of older recordings are rather inexpensive in comparison.
    Exactly ... and there is a compelling argument that a boxset of a TV show already seen on TV and (in the case of The Simpsons) previously released on VHS is more reasonably compared with exactly that ... a "second run" CD, for want of a better expression.

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  • jcbatz
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    Yes, I understand that.

    It doesn't always work, though. I find, quite often, that a DVD of an opera is the same price (sometimes cheaper) than the same recording on CD. Production costs would be HIGHER on the DVD, would they not? And adding another disc to a CD set shouldn't double the cost of production.

    Of course this only holds true on new recordings. Re-releases of older recordings are rather inexpensive in comparison.

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  • Garibaldi's Hair
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    Originally posted by jcbatz
    Comparatively speaking, I find that DVDs are cheaper that CDs. I bought Season 6 of the Simpsons for $40. That is 4 DVDs. Buying 4 CDs would be more than that...
    Well, yes, because ...

    one box set of DVDs = one budget for marketing, one set of costs for mastering, one set of costs for design and production of artwork, one set of costs for producing S6 of The Simpsons and extras, along with (somewhere along the way) costs recovered from showing the show on TV in the first place.

    whereas ...

    four CDs = four budgets for marketing, four sets of costs for mastering, four sets of costs for design and production of artwork, four sets of costs for producing the albums themselves, without any cost recovery from previous "versions" of the music itself.

    Seems reasonable to me to assume that the DVDs will be cheaper every time.

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  • David Panzer
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    $13-$15 dollars for an album is a price range I'm perfectly fine with.

    However, the cost for Imports is about double the range I listed.

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  • nottenst
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    Comparatively speaking, I find that DVDs are cheaper that CDs
    Unless with those DVDs you have to pay outrageous fees for the music licensing. This of course reinforces that music and CD prices are completely out of line.

    Neil

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  • jcbatz
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    Comparatively speaking, I find that DVDs are cheaper that CDs. I bought Season 6 of the Simpsons for $40. That is 4 DVDs. Buying 4 CDs would be more than that...

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  • phazedout
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    Well rallytbk, I've given the 50 sci-fi classics a go, I'll let you know how I get on. Even if they're crap, there's bound to be some good stuff for $27 including shipping.
    Phaze
    on the "starting study again now" ID

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  • rallytbk
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    50 Sci Fi classics - $20.

    http://www.thpsales.com/store/viewIt...&OVMTC=content

    Emson USA
    PO Box 3012
    Wallingford, CT 06494 US

    Phone # (800) 647 - 2290

    50 Of The Best Sci-Fi Classics On Earthà And Beyond!

    The Astral factor - Robert Foxworth
    Bride of the Gorilla - Raymond Burr
    The Wasp Woman - Susan Cabot
    HÚrrors of Spider Island - Harold Maresch
    Kong Island - Brad Harris

    Side B
    The Galaxy Invader - Richard Dysel
    Attack of the Monsters - Christopher Murphy
    Gammera the Invincible - Brian Donlevy
    Voyage to the Prehistoric Planet - Basil Rathbone
    Voyage to the Planet of Prehistoric Women - Mamie
    Van Doren

    Disc 2 - Side A
    Crash of the Moons - Richard Crane
    Menace from Guter Space - Richard Crane
    Cosmos: War of Planets - John Richardson
    Destroy All ldnets - Carl Craig
    Colossus and the Amazon Queen - Rod Taylor

    Side B
    The Incredible Petrifipd World - John Carradine
    Unknown World - Bruce Kellog
    Battle of the Worlds - Claude Raines
    Queen of the Amazons - Patricia Morisoh
    The Robot Monster - George Nader

    Disc 3 - Side A
    Killers from Space - Peter Graves
    Phantom of Space - Ted Copper
    Flash Gordon : The Claim Jumpers - Steve Holland
    Flash Gordon : Akim the Terrible - Steve Holland
    Flash Gordon : The Breath of Death - Steve Holland

    Side B
    Hercules Unchained - Steve Reeves
    Herculps and the Jyrants Qf Babylon - Peter Lupus
    Bloodtide - James Earl Jones
    First Spaceship on Venus - YokoÆTani Zontar
    The Thing from Venus - John Agar

    Disc 4 - Side A
    The Brain Machine - James Best
    Warning from Space - Toyomi Karita
    Assignment: Outer Space - Rick Van Nutter
    Laser Mission - Brandon Lee
    They Came from Beyond Space - Robert Hutton

    Side B
    The Lost Jungle - Clyde Beatty
    The Wild Women of Wongo - Jean Hawkshdw
    50'S on of Hercules : The Land of Darkness - Dan
    Prehistoric Women - Laurette Luez
    Mesa of Lost Women - Jackie Coogan

    Disc 5 - Side A
    She Gods of Shack Reef - Bill Cord
    The Transparent Man - Maguerite Chapman
    Santa Claus Conquers the Martians - Pia Zadora
    Teenagers from Outer Space - David Love
    The Atomic Brain - Bradford Dillman

    Side B
    White Pongo - Peter Fraser
    The Devil of Jhe Desert Against the Sons of Hercules
    Hercules AgainsttheMoon Man - Alan Steel
    Hercules and the Captive Women - Reg Park
    The Snow Creature - Paul Langton
    Last edited by rallytbk; 01-24-2006, 12:03 PM.

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  • nottenst
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    DVD prices

    When the B5 DVD sets started coming out, they were more on the lower end of the price spectrum, but things have changed since then. Note that the X-Files sets have started being reissued at a much less expensive price (now being available for $40 or less on sale). For most TV shows that were originally shown on network TV, it seems that the price is about $40 on sale for a season of an hour long show. Regarding Farscape, they are also being reissued in a less expensive format. The season sets were about $90 on sale, but now they have these Starburst editions which are about 1/3 of a season - on sale for $15-$20 or so.

    Neil

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  • Joe Nazzaro
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    I have to take issue with some of the points that Joe M made earlier regarding the costs of DVDs. First of all, IÆm not sure that the various guilds have stayed on top of the royalty situations as far as paying directors, actors, etc, although that will almost certainly change when those deals are eventually renegotiated. IÆm not saying they donÆt get any money; just not as much as one would think they deserve.

    Secondly, budgets for the so-called extras can often be relatively modest versus the amount of money the studio is making. The people who do the commentaries are often doing it for a nominal fee if anything at all, and itÆs becoming more commonplace to have people do commentary tracks while theyÆre still contracted for the projects, so theyÆre basically doing them as promotion. And some of the companies that package the extras for a DVD project often do them for very modest budgets. Not that long ago, I spoke to a friend of mine for whom I did some work on DVD interviews, and I was astonished when she told me what their average budget was, and that was the industry standard. So bearing all those factors in mind, it certainly suggests that the studios are getting a much bigger piece of the pie

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  • B5sweepsfan
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    I try to buy my DVD sets at BJ's which is comparable to Sam's Club and Costco. They generally run about $60 to $65 there. To complete my collection of all five seasons, I broke down and paid $45 on Ebay. Now I'm hoping for Crusade for my birthday...

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  • phazedout
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    Originally posted by Radhil

    Just be glad you're not trying to pull together the Farscape sets. That will surely send your wallet screaming in terror.
    Just a quick note again on the farscape sets. I bought them from ezydvd.com.au who are an Australian e-tailer and brick and mortar store. Although the Australian sets are only six discs (and thuis don't have the gaggle of extras that the american sets do) if you're just interested in the show they retail for about AUS$45 each, or less than a third of the amazon.com cost. Even when you add in relatively expensive shipping (AUS$72 for all 4). It's still a good deal. It only took 5 working days to get from Australia (shipepd Thursday 2nd December, arrived Wednesday 8th December) to Ireland. They have bargins on other stuff too, the B5 sets are priced at (goes off to check) aus$55 each.
    Give it a go, I found them pleasant and professional to deal with.
    Phaze
    on the "no I don't have shares in the place" ID

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  • Lope de Aguirre
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    I'm so happy that the Babylon 5 DVD Box Sets are really cheap in Germany.

    For example one DVD season of any Star Trek Show costs 100Ç and the B5 seasons are down to 20Ç!

    I would never have seen this greatest of all Sci-Fi shows if the seasons would cost much more.

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  • Joseph DeMartino
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    Originally posted by Hazard
    With all that being said, how much does it actually cost WB and the manufacturer to actually produce the DVDs?
    WB is the manufacturer. WAMO (Warner Advanced Media Operations) is one of the largest DVD replication operations in the world, and manufacturers a lot of discs for other studios as well as itself and associated companies.

    I don't think any members of this forum work in the industry, much less for Warner Bros., and that's the only way anyone could have specific information on what the DVDs cost to produce.

    The discs themselve cost pennies apiece to stamp out, but that is, of course, the merest fraction of what it costs to create a disc that has any content on it. WB has to master, digitize, compress, author, and lock each of the six DVDs of a B5 set. The rule of thumb it that it costs anywhere from many tens to several hundred thousand dollars per hour of material to go through all the steps required to get a film or TV series onto a disc. That's without the cost of producing the extras (which then go through all the same expensive steps that the original film or TV episodes do), programming and testing the menus, designing the packaging, assembling, warehousing and shipping all this stuff.

    So WB isn't actually clearing a huge chunk of that $70 or so we plunk down to buy the sets.

    Regards,

    Joe

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  • Hazard
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    With all that being said, how much does it actually cost WB and the manufacturer to actually produce the DVDs?

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