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  • Sigma
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    Originally posted by Z'ha'dumDweller
    Here are links to each book, synopses included.

    Baptism of Fire

    Birth of Heroes

    Actions of Many

    Visions of Peace

    Ranger Dawning
    You are missing Ashes of the Past

    This book sounds by far the most interesting to me. It could be interesting to read about Dilgar War (and about Sinclair father). If i remember correctly from S1, he was a war hero in Dilgar War, right?

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  • Jan
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    Originally posted by frulad
    Still, the book synopsises (synopsi?) don't really ignite too much of a fire in me. I'm especially turned off by the "Marcus Cole: Ranger Cadet" one.
    Synopses. Is that the one that talks about a Maddox Cole? I already can't figure out when/what that one's about. Marcus' brother was named William and he was Marcus' only brother according to 'To Dream in the City of Sorrows'. If they're referring to his father, that's also against what's in that same book, as his parents owned (ran?) the mining operation and their company was almost bankrupted during the Minbari war. I suppose it might have been an uncle maybe...

    Jan

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  • frulad
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    Well, I'm not surprised that they're focusing on the Rangers for most of the books. From a gaming mindset - since these are being put out by a gaming company I'm assuming that's the default thinking amongst the editors - the Rangers are the easiest group to deal with within the B5 universe as they're important, but outside of Marcus, played a largely unseen (though felt) role in the course of events. You can tell Ranger stories that may briefly touch on the main show's story arc but don't infringe on it.

    Still, the book synopsises (synopsi?) don't really ignite too much of a fire in me. I'm especially turned off by the "Marcus Cole: Ranger Cadet" one.

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  • Jan
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    Originally posted by williestealandhow
    While JMS is the creator of B5, Warner Bros. owns the rights to B5. If JMS uses the B5 logo in or on his script books, he would be violating copyright even though he created the series, characters, logos, etc.
    Minor correction-he'd be violating WBs trademark if he used the B5 logo, not copyright.
    Originally posted by manwithnoname
    In the realm of Open-Mindedness, this is actually a realm inside the Negative Zone, WillieSAH's approach is appropriate.
    Yes, if you're already interested in reading them in the first place. Most of the discussion has been whether folks are interested in the first place and why. One can agree or disagree with those reasons but nobody should attempt to tell another whether those reasons are appropriate or not.

    Come on, anybody who's reading comics nowadays are not reading the monthly adventures written by their creators. Somebody's reading all those Buffy and Angel prose novels being published. I haven't, but somewhere out there in the Phantom or Negative Zone (choose your Universe) someone keeps buying them.
    Yep, they do. But comparisons to any universe where the history hasn't been mapped out for a considerable period before and after the main events seen simply aren't apt, for the simple reason that those never had a canon to contradict. Comparing to the sagas on which B5 was modeled such as the Lensmen or Lord of the Rings would be closer, imo.

    Thanks for the links, ZD.

    Jan

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  • manwithnoname
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    Originally posted by WillieStealAndHow
    If I can obtain a copy of these new books, I'll do so and read them. Then I'll decide whether I liked it.
    In the realm of Open-Mindedness, this is actually a realm inside the Negative Zone, WillieSAH's approach is appropriate.

    Come on, anybody who's reading comics nowadays are not reading the monthly adventures written by their creators. Somebody's reading all those Buffy and Angel prose novels being published. I haven't, but somewhere out there in the Phantom or Negative Zone (choose your Universe) someone keeps buying them.

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  • manwithnoname
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    Originally posted by WillieStealAndHow
    If it makes people happy, I'll check with Bob Kane before I read another Batman comic. Fair enough?
    Good morning, WillieSAH. From some interviews about Bob Kane and the creation of Batman, checking in with Bob Kane is cool, but Bill Finger added and tweaked the character to what we have now. Please, check in with him also. Now -- that's fair.



    Peace.

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  • Dr Maturin
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    Here are links to each book, synopses included.

    Baptism of Fire

    Birth of Heroes

    Actions of Many

    Visions of Peace

    Ranger Dawning

    If they're good, then I think their publication will be great, regardless of JMS's lack of involvement. I loved the fleshing out of the B5 universe in the techno-mage trilogy. But reading the synopses, the books sounds pretty formulaic and boring.
    Last edited by Dr Maturin; 03-29-2006, 10:04 PM.

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  • Capt.Montoya
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    "Top Dollar" at the FirstOnes.com Forums reports that the books have appeared for preorder at Amazon.DE

    I checked one title at Amazon.co.UK and there's a page for it, synopsis included.

    (This has been a public service announcement for those wishing to search for the announced titles and read synopses, even preorder.)


    I remain uninterested. I won't even read the free fanfiction Grumbler mentions (and I actually wouldn't ever read a fanfic, even one highly recommended by other fans) much less pay for fanfics.
    Now, I don't doubt that this might be great fanfic, I even suspect that the books will be edited to be as canonical as possible (I believe Mongoose might have access to lots of supplementary info and timelines for their role playing books), but I always prefer original SF.
    I read the trilogy of B5 trilogies only because it came from a JMS outline. I read the other two canonical novels two. But even for B5 I'm not interested in an "expanded universe" series of novels.

    There's lots of excellent original SF, of new fictional universes to explore, I'd rather spend my money on that.

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  • David Panzer
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    While JMS is the creator of B5, Warner Bros. owns the rights to B5. If JMS uses the B5 logo in or on his script books, he would be violating copyright even though he created the series, characters, logos, etc.

    If I can obtain a copy of these new books, I'll do so and read them. Then I'll decide whether I liked it.

    If it makes people happy, I'll check with Bob Kane before I read another Batman comic. Fair enough?

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  • manwithnoname
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    Originally posted by grumbler
    The bottom line is that I just don't have the lifespan to waste on something which is purported to be "B5 canon" but which is not, by even your own statement. Count me as a non-sale.
    But if you were a Vorlon and possessed their lifespan, would you consider buying the novels? I mean...you would have the time to give, right?









    please, don't take that seriously. it's near bedtime for me, goofiness setting in. ahhhhh, the wonders of the graveyard shift. it was a great 2 days off. "Back to work, slave."

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  • grumbler
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    Originally posted by WillieStealAndHow
    Well, isn't this like the situation with the Star Wars novels that came out in '91? Lucas wasn't beholden to what was written in the books, games, or whatever when he decides to tell another Star Wars story. If that means contradicting a book here or there with his stories, he's the creator. Same thing with this.

    If JMS decides to tell another story set in the B5 universe, if he decides to support or contradict what happened, that's his choice.

    Right now, not a single word from these B5 novels has been published. So to me, it's similar to say "That movie stinks" or "That book is junk" without having experienced either.
    I guess my take on this is "why pay for a B5 fairy tale when well-written ones are available for free?"

    Its not like any of the authors they mention are well-known or of known talent. Frankly, I have as much faith in the ability of a committed fan to produce a quality fanfic as I have of some hack who writes for Mongoose's peanuts a word.

    The bottom line is that I just don't have the lifespan to waste on something which is purported to be "B5 canon" but which is not, by even your own statement. Hell, I can make up my own answers to the unsolved mysteries of B5.

    Count me as a non-sale.
    Last edited by grumbler; 04-05-2006, 07:49 PM.

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  • Dr Maturin
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    If anybody wants the books, they'll get'em.

    I sincerely hope that the books mainly involve new characters.
    Last edited by Dr Maturin; 03-29-2006, 09:59 PM.

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  • manwithnoname
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    Originally posted by vacantlook
    If GL cared only about making money, then he would have written the prequel trilogy to be all the complaining fans' wet dream instead of writing it to be the story that he wanted to tell.
    Green Lantern? What does he have anything to do with all of this?








    It's a joke. At 2:49am things do seem kinda funny. Heh, heh.

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  • frulad
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    Originally posted by Jan
    Just a reminder that, so far at least, there's no distribution to the States. As far as I know, this is Mongoose's first foray into novels so those interested may only be able to get them via Mongoose. Or maybe gaming outlets? I'm not familiar with how gaming tie-ins are distributed.

    Jan
    Amazon.uk is showing some of Mongoose's (Mongeese? :P ) gaming books available, so I'm assuming the novels will be available through them as well.

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  • ManInTheMiddle
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    Yeah, it'd be triply ironic, if Mongoose retconned "The Eye" as a giant totem.

    Personally, if JMS says it's not canon: I'm not interested.

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