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    Satai Delenn
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  • Satai Delenn
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    Would that have meant that Delenn's great great great Grandmother would have been Delenn?

    That's some mind-bending inter-breeding there



    JMS I think changed his mind about the direction of the B5 story when O'hare left so Delenn would not have been her own greatX grandmother.

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  • The_One
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  • The_One
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    Originally posted by grumbler
    (he would have married Delenn and gone back in time at the end of Season 5 vice the middle of Season 3, IMO).
    Would that have meant that Delenn's great great great Grandmother would have been Delenn?

    That's some mind-bending inter-breeding there

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  • Satai Delenn
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    I seem to remember one of the posters over at b5tv.com mentioned that Tim Choate had said when he got the role of Zathras that his charater would only appear one other time and that was at the series finale .So I think WWE may have been the original ending to B5 with Sinclair and Delenn leaving.IMHO I always loved O'Hare's performance and wish he had stayed but ....

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  • WorkerCaste
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    I doubt even JMS could really say what things would've been like if Michale O'Hare stayed. My impression from JMS's posts lines up pretty closely with Grumbler. JMS has told the story several times of how Harlan Ellison will sometimes, at a public appearance, write a short story by taping each page up as he goes. That way he can't go back and smooth things out if he gets into trouble. JMS has said that creating B5 was like that trick. I think he found that he had written himself into a corner in some respects. As it turned out, the mutual feelings created a situation where he could deal with it without as much fuss, but if that hadn't happened, I have no doubt that JMS would've been quite successful in applying his talent to working his way out of the corner. I think when he has mentioned bringing in a new character, he's probably talking about one of the steps he would've taken to do this. Way back when B5 was born, he might not have been planning it, but as the episodes got "taped to the wall" I think the idea was growing, so the idea of a second character, or commander, probably began shaping up fairly early.

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  • Kloreep
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  • Kloreep
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    Originally posted by bakana
    If you search JMS posts on the subject of Michael O'Hare, you can see what JMS had to say about the subject.
    Mostly that Sheridan would have been brought in during the second season no matter what.
    ???

    I recall reading JMS saying Sinclair was originally to be the leading B5 commander throughout the series, but that he changed his mind as he began to look at where Sinclair would (or rather, where he even could) go in Season 2.

    So JMS came up with the idea of simply bringing in a new commander, allowing him to do more than he would have with the position of the station commander character by using Sheridan, while allowing Sinclair to go off and lead the Rangers off-screen (and return for WWE of course).

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  • grumbler
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    One of those "hot topics" about which I think JMS rationalized after the fact.

    My take is a bit more straightforward:
    1. Several actors on the series have said ininterviews how uncomfortable O'Hare was with the pace of acting/memorizing/shooting. He was a stage actor used to much more rehearsal time, and none of the TV guest shots he had done prepared him for the shooting schedule required on B5 for budget reasons. By the end of season one he was looking for an out.
    2. JMS had created in Sinclair the main charactor he wanted to have in seasons four and five - but he had created him too early. there could be no "journey of self-discovery" because Sinclair already "talked like a Minbari" in season one. JMS needed to hit the reset button and have Sinclair be a less well-defined, less self-aware guy. Replacing Sinclair with Sheridan (Sinclair less two years' experience) was clearly the way to go.

    Both (1) and (2) meant Sinclair had to go, and it must have been quite a relief to both parties to see how closely they agreed. it was win-win for both, as JMS said. I just don't think it would have developed as JMS claimed if Sinclair had not left (he would have married Delenn and gone back in time at the end of Season 5 vice the middle of Season 3, IMO).

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  • bakana
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  • bakana
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    If you search JMS posts on the subject of Michael O'Hare, you can see what JMS had to say about the subject.
    Mostly that Sheridan would have been brought in during the second season no matter what.
    Sinclair would have "gone elsewhere" at some point.
    But, when he told JMS that he had a pretty good offer for some work on Broadway and asked just When that was going to happen, they sat down and discussed things and both decided that the end of season One made better story sense than having the two characters overlap.

    At one point, I recall JMS posting a remark the O'Hare had actually suggested a couple ways that JMS could use his sudden absence to improve things that JMS had already planned for season two.

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  • redone
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  • redone
    started a topic Changes because of O'Hare

    Changes because of O'Hare

    How do you guys think B5 would have gone had Michael O'Hare decided to continue after series one.

    Would he have just taken over the Sheridan role?

    Do you think there would have been any major changes to the main story arc?

    War without end 1+2 are they only major changes I can think of.
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    redone
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    Last edited by redone; 01-18-2011, 10:10 PM.
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