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  • #16
    Originally posted by Ranger 6 and 7/8
    It appears i might be alone here, but i though LotR had promise..
    I liked Rangers a lot, too. I liked the characters, I liked the mix of crew and I liked the potential for tension when David Martel would inevitably have 'discipline problems' thereby puncturing a few Minbari traditions.


    Look at Andromeda and Earth:Final Conflict. I didn't care for either in the beginning, but I got hooked on Earth by the end of the first season, and ok, yeah it took til last year for me to like Andromeda, but Now I like it.
    I loved the first 1.5 seasons of Andromeda. The character development was great for all of them with some good threads going through the episodes. Then they forced out the head writer and Sorbo deliberately dumbed it down.

    Jan
    "As empathy spreads, civilization spreads. As empathy contracts, civilization contracts...as we're seeing now.

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    • #17
      Here's another vote for LOTR had a lot of promise as well.The crew especially had a lot of room for conflict espeically for the fact the rangers were admitting people from other races to join.It would have been nice to see how Tirk and Nafeel and how any others who weren't human or minbari felt about wearing a pin that only reperensed the two races.If Delenn wanted the ISA to to show all the member then the ranger pin should have been redesigned and I thought the Hand had promise .But we will never know it would seem.

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      • #18
        Slightly off-topic : Jan, remember that I said I would get season5 once mr. taxman would own up? Called them and they are going to next week... :

        Don't expect me on the forum too much in the week after that...
        "En wat als tijd de helft van echtheid was, was alles dan dubbelsnel verbaal?"

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Towelmaster
          Slightly off-topic : Jan, remember that I said I would get season5 once mr. taxman would own up? Called them and they are going to next week... :

          Don't expect me on the forum too much in the week after that...
          Well, don't forget to come up for air every once in a while to report in, okay? Enjoy!

          Jan
          "As empathy spreads, civilization spreads. As empathy contracts, civilization contracts...as we're seeing now.

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          • #20
            I liked Season 5 ok. I think people had a hard time with Lochley. I know I did at first, but the more I watched, the more I really liked her.

            I also enjoyed Londo and G'kar's character development. Not to mention that Sleeping in Light is the finale to end all finales in my opinion (though it was filmed for Season 4.)

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            • #21
              RE: The Hand in L ot Rangers, just remember:

              "Let me pass on to you the one thing I've learned about this place.
              No one here is exactly what he appears.
              Not Mollari, not Delenn, not Sinclair .. and not me."

              G'Kar to Sakai in Babylon 5:"Mind War"

              "I told you before you left: 'No one here is entirely what they appear.'
              If I surprised you, all the better. Good day, Ms. Sakai."

              G'Kar to Sakai in Babylon 5:"Mind War"
              And not The Hand.

              You just can't Trust the Vorlon.
              JMS will lead you down the path of your expectations, then kick you right in your assumptions...


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              • #22
                Finished watching season 5 on Saturday. I will say that other than the telepath storyline, I thoroughly enjoyed it. Lockley was a little out there at first, but she wasn't in enough for me to form a deep opinion about her. I kinda wish there was more of her as I would have liked to form an opinion. I loved Londo and G'Kar and I liked what resulted with Lyta, especially when she explained to Garabaldi exactly what she was, however, I found myself bored with the methods used to get there. I found a lot of enjoyment with the episode focused on Bester and his trainees, and of course thoroughly loved the bittersweet Sleeping in the Light. However, I think my favorite moment was the next to last episode where Sheridan turned the white star around before heading to Menbar and looked at the "new cast" standing in C&C looking back at them. That's when I believe it fully hit me exactly how far the series had come.

                I'm very glad I watched it, although I hate the fact that there is no more B5 to watch. I guess there's always the movies and Crusade, but it's sad there's no more actual B5.

                But, thanks again for convincing me to watch it. I went into Season 5 with very low expectations and was plesantly surprised by how everything went.
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                -Synbios1978

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Synbios1978
                  However, I think my favorite moment was the next to last episode where Sheridan turned the white star around before heading to Menbar and looked at the "new cast" standing in C&C looking back at them. That's when I believe it fully hit me exactly how far the series had come.
                  I have tears in my eyes just from reading that,for real.

                  The episode you are talking about is Objects at Rest,and indeed its sad..ok enough,im trying not to focus myself on those last 2 episodes of B5
                  Sleeping in Light-----Darnit! Shut the Window.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Ranger1
                    I have tears in my eyes just from reading that,for real.

                    The episode you are talking about is Objects at Rest,and indeed its sad..ok enough,im trying not to focus myself on those last 2 episodes of B5
                    I'm not sure, but wasn't the music for that scene (the turn and salute scene) the same as for when the Station was destroyed? Just the music can choke me up because you can 'see' the story in the music oftentimes.

                    Jan
                    "As empathy spreads, civilization spreads. As empathy contracts, civilization contracts...as we're seeing now.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Jan
                      I'm not sure, but wasn't the music for that scene (the turn and salute scene) the same as for when the Station was destroyed?
                      Jan
                      Yes its the same music,ok im off to cry
                      Sleeping in Light-----Darnit! Shut the Window.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Synbios1978
                        Finished watching season 5 on Saturday. I will say that I'm very glad I watched it but it's sad there's no more actual B5.

                        But, thanks again for convincing me to watch it. I went into Season 5 with very low expectations and was plesantly surprised by how everything went.
                        I think you hit the nail on the head there Synbios1978, you went in with low expectations. After S4's initial run, the huge movement through the arc contained therein, the threat of cancellation, the actual canellation, the last minute reprive to the airing if the 5th season episodes, Claudia not being onboard for this final call, all this built up ENORMOUS (and on reflection, unrealistic) expectation. That is why many people didn't really like it much first time around...including (YIPES!) me!! It was difficult to find the required shift of gears needed to tell this final section of the story, and get used to it. That is why, this last time around my family and I Really appreciated S5 for the fantastic season that it actually was, funny, thoughtful, witty, articulate, intelligent, exciting, dramatic, emotional. All the things, in fact, which the previous four years had had - it was just that the appearence of new faces and restructuring of the story alittle dictated that a slower start was required to fit in all those new elements. But it sure worked out fine by me.

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                        • #27
                          Oddly enough, I liked S5 right from the start with one real exception -- the telepath story. Where my experience differed from the first viewing to the second was in how big the story loomed in my recollection. When I saw S5 the first time, it felt like the telepath story dominated the first third of the season. When I watched the episodes the second time, the telepath story receded somewhat and didn't seem so large.
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by WorkerCaste
                            When I watched the episodes the second time, the telepath story receded somewhat and didn't seem so large.
                            Thats the difference between watching an episode every week and between watching few episodes in a row.
                            Sleeping in Light-----Darnit! Shut the Window.

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                            • #29
                              The turn and salute scene is just too much to watch without shedding a tear. I have to turn off the DVD there because if I watch the beginning of the credits where they show the film crew with the WhiteStar formation overhead, I really tear up.

                              Another emotional moment for me is from the movie "In the Beginning" the opening monologue is a great statement. I'm not an emotional person normally, but B5 can hit those chords once you've experienced the entire series a few times...

                              I liked the mystique of the Techno-mages in B5, and Crusade robbed me of that, not that it was a bad series, but it was certaily more of a trekkie show. LotR, only caught one episode, from a hotel room in Peru of all places. Not too interested as I was watching, until G'kar showed up, good to see a familiar face!

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                              • #30
                                IMHO Londo, G'Kar, and Garibaldi made season 5 worth while. JMS wrapped up most of the story when UPN decided not to pick up season 5 and TNT did at the last minute. One could only wonder how the show would have went if Claudia Christian had been there for season 5. I liked Ivanova. One could also wonder how the story would have went if Michael O'Hare had remained onboard? Teah I know I am dragging up old hat but speculation is what makes the forums fun.
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