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  • #16
    Originally posted by Jan
    What about The Gathering and In the Beginning? Even if you have them already, do you have the commentaries? Or are they being released seperately in another release?

    Jan
    FYI: I buy DVDs in England, not Germany (this is because I do not speak German, but still need R2 DVDs).

    I have both "The Gathering" (original cut) and "In the Beginning". They were released separately (as 2 separate DVDs) before the series and not included in upcoming movie pack. Both are barebones DVDs, no commentaries or any extras.

    It seems to me, that 1998-edit of "The Gathering" will not be released in R2 at all . So maybe I will buy R1 release sooner or later.

    EDIT: Sorry, z^3, did not see your post before writing this!
    Last edited by alex_t; 01-16-2005, 12:50 PM.

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    • #17
      Re: Fishy...

      I smell something fishy too. Ivanova - jewish last name?
      Why not? During the USSR years many jewish people took russian family names just to avoid problems with the authorities. So maybe these family names will stay for the future. Or she's not 100% jewish?
      Last edited by alex_t; 01-16-2005, 12:50 PM.

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      • #18
        Aaaaa! I'm doomed! "Thirdspace" was today (and yesterday too!) on RTL2 channel!

        Of course it probably was in German, but at least I could see the picture!

        Damn!
        Last edited by alex_t; 01-16-2005, 02:38 PM.

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        • #19
          alex_t please read your private message
          Sleeping in Light-----Darnit! Shut the Window.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by alex_t
            Initially I thought that Ivanova is quite unnatural character (as Russian): normally she should be ivanOva (not ivAnova), plus she behaves too good for a Russian
            Finally! Someone who also feels that they should have pronounced Ivanova's name differently!

            Welcome on board alex.
            "En wat als tijd de helft van echtheid was, was alles dan dubbelsnel verbaal?"

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Towelmaster
              Finally! Someone who also feels that they should have pronounced Ivanova's name differently!
              Well, being a foreigner in Germany I must say that nobody from Germans, French and English people around put an accent correctly in my own family name. I got used to that and don't correct them - maybe it was the same with the character of Ivanova

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              • #22
                Alex - Thanks for the reminder of how to say "Ivanova".

                Did you happen to see the episode in which a "news reporter" from ISN called her "Eye-van-o-va"? (Sorry, I can't think of another way to phonetically show the long "I", as in "eye"). The look she gave the reporter said it all.
                Michael Malloy

                Never forget:

                Moscow; Beslan 2004
                Kosovo: 1999, 2004
                New York City: September 11, 2001
                Smyrna: September 9, 1922

                http://www.hri.org/docs/Horton/hb-title.html
                Armenian Genocide in Turkey: 1915-1917
                http://www.armenian-genocide.org/

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                • #23
                  Yep, that was hilarious!

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                  • #24
                    When I first started watching more Babylon 5 instead of just the first season which I first saw in college, it was after I took my 19th century Russian writers course in my senior year.

                    From what I remember from my readings, Russian names have 3 names: the first name, the middle name or patronymic which is taken after the father ("son of" or "daughter of"), then the surname or the family name.

                    I'm not trying to be anal, but for a while when I started watching Babylon 5 again, I'd always wonder what Ivanova's family name was. Then with further study, I learned that the patronymic is used by family and close friends, and that you can have a whole string of nicknames depending on the level of affection your family has for you. Then I mentally said "to hell with all this name stuff, enjoy the damn show" and I've since been treated to an excellent series
                    Last edited by David Panzer; 01-17-2005, 08:16 PM.
                    RIP Coach Larry Finch
                    Thank you Memphis Grizzlies for a great season.
                    Play like your fake girlfriend died today - new Notre Dame motivational sign

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                    • #25
                      Susan Andreevna Ivanova

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                      • #26
                        The Russian language, as do some other European languages, has a different way of dealing with strangers (or others) and close friends.

                        For example, among close friends and informally, Susan Andreevna Ivanova would have been addressed using a dimuitive form of Susan...Suzhecka or the likes. In formal situations and among subordinates she would be addressed as "Susan Andreevna" with the last name probably omitted. At least that is the way it works with a teacher I've studied with "Nikolai Aleksevich Myshkin", known among his students politely as "Nikolai Aleksevich".
                        Michael Malloy

                        Never forget:

                        Moscow; Beslan 2004
                        Kosovo: 1999, 2004
                        New York City: September 11, 2001
                        Smyrna: September 9, 1922

                        http://www.hri.org/docs/Horton/hb-title.html
                        Armenian Genocide in Turkey: 1915-1917
                        http://www.armenian-genocide.org/

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                        • #27
                          Nikolai Aleksevich Myshkin
                          Myshkin?

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                          • #28
                            Nikolai Myshkin, Moscow Conservatory
                            Н. А. Мышкин, Московская консерватория

                            And just in case the Cyrillic doesn't hold up, here is the web address for the school I have attended two summers:

                            http://www.rocor.de/Vestnik/20011/html/39schkola.htm
                            Michael Malloy

                            Never forget:

                            Moscow; Beslan 2004
                            Kosovo: 1999, 2004
                            New York City: September 11, 2001
                            Smyrna: September 9, 1922

                            http://www.hri.org/docs/Horton/hb-title.html
                            Armenian Genocide in Turkey: 1915-1917
                            http://www.armenian-genocide.org/

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Ranger1
                              Spirit: oy lo,od rusi?

                              Just an inside joke ignore it everyone



                              Well she is,don't you remember the Shiva after her father's death? (a time of mourning after death).
                              I do. I even remember the Rabi Kozlov...


                              (ve ken, od "rusi", aval ani magdir et atzmi ceudi ^_^ az ani mevakesh )
                              Seek salvation, for the war is here... Deny nothing

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by alex_t
                                Well, being a foreigner in Germany I must say that nobody from Germans, French and English people around put an accent correctly in my own family name. I got used to that and don't correct them - maybe it was the same with the character of Ivanova
                                Oh, you telling me? My family name is 15 letters long, and no one, but no one can get it right...
                                Ufff!
                                Seek salvation, for the war is here... Deny nothing

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