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    Hi,
    could someone please point me to a posting by JMS where he in length tells us what happened to Crusade. I've tried searching in the archive but came up with far too many hits.

    TIA

    /IamS

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    I also couldn't find the very long mail where he posted the notes received from the studio and his comments to the notes.

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    Yes I did! But the long history of Crusade still escapes me.
    Last edited by iamsheridan; 12-13-2004, 05:36 AM.
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  • #2
    The whole saga is collected together in one thread at a different site: http://www.isnnews.net/forums/showth...&threadid=2244

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    • #3
      Or you have the short version:

      WB: we want more sex in Crusade.

      JMS: over my dead body.

      WB: we will terminate that show if we will not get more sex.

      JMS: Bye.

      Sleeping in Light-----Darnit! Shut the Window.

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      • #4
        Atan: I didn't find the step-by-step description that I remember. I'll watch more closely tomorrow, though. Mayby it just exists in my mind?

        But thanks for the effort!

        R1:

        /IamS
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Ranger1
          Or you have the short version:

          WB: we want more sex in Crusade.

          JMS: over my dead body.

          WB: we will terminate that show if we will not get more sex.

          JMS: Bye.

          Replace WB with TNT. Then you'd have the short version, not the short wrong version
          "Gold chains and watches, the maggot's got plenty.
          He pinched them from ladies and upset the gentry"

          'The Maggot', Goldie Looking Chain

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          • #6
            Or you have the short version:

            WB: we want more sex in Crusade.

            JMS: over my dead body.

            WB: we will terminate that show if we will not get more sex.

            JMS: Bye.
            Which, given the change of WB to TNT as funkymikemoses noted above, is only what happened on the surface, not what TNT was actually doing.

            As per the Hawthorne High School Comic Con Transcript:

            JMS: I want the real truth to come out. Including the fact...I ran into some guys who worked for TNT about two years after Crusade went down. And they said, "Did you ever hear the rest of the story?" JMS: "What rest of the story?" TNT guys: "We found out, we did a research survey, a five year long study of our ratings. This was just after Crusade got going. And, we found out that the audience for B5 came for B5, then left afterward. And the TNT regular viewers didn't stick around for B5 and went away and came back. B5 wasn't adding to our viewer base." So...they decided to pull the plug on Crusade for that reason and use the money to buy another show. But they couldn't say that because they'd be in breach of contract with Warner Bros. So their job was to make it impossible for us so they could then say, "We aren't getting the show we want, our notes aren't being dealt with, therefore we aren't responsible, we're canceling the show, this is your nut Warner Bros., you take care of it." That is why all the notes became so egregious. If I had given them everything they wanted, they still would have pulled the plug. They just wanted out. Yeah, I want that information out there.

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