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Hey, I remember the canon game! That was the low-res one where each player got a canon on random terrain and you had to pick your elevation to try and hit the other guy, right?
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Originally posted by WorkerCaste
I'd have to say that it just seems like a slip on JMS's part.
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I'd have to say that it just seems like a slip on JMS's part. At various times there have been references to the Great Maker, to Centauri gods, and to Centauri household gods. In some of his posts, JMS refers to a pantheon of gods.
http://jmsnews.com/msg.aspx?id=1-11734
http://jmsnews.com/msg.aspx?id=1-15929
Even if you posit that the gods are elvated emperors, and that the GReat Maker is the chief among the gods, that's still polytheistic. I haven't heard the commentary, but if if there wasn't a lot of context or discussion pertaining to monotheism, it was probably just a slip of the tongue. I certainly make them often enough myself!
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An analogy:
Zeus was the God, ruling over all others.
The other gods were his children, with powers and characteristics related to certain aspects of nature.
About the Centauri: IIRC they elevated some past emperors to godhood (cf. Cartagia's intentions, also contrast to the Roman Empire upon which JMS modelled them where some emperors declared themselves gods), I'd venture that the others were minor deities with respect to the Great Maker.
I agree with grumbler, Saints are only intermediates to God. Sort of like asking your priest, or some other pious person you consider to be more in favor with God, to pray for you.
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Originally posted by bakana
Also, there are gods. Then there is God.
The Centauri, in general, may have used god (lower case) the same way we use Saint .
IOW, they had about 50 gods.
And ONE Great Maker.
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Also, there are gods. Then there is God.
The Centauri, in general, may have used god (lower case) the same way we use Saint .
IOW, they had about 50 gods.
And ONE Great Maker.
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Some religions consider the many gods and goddesses in their pantheon to be simply aspects of the one over-God, as it were. With the Centauri, certainly the Great Maker is their chief God.
Amy
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Monotheistic?
Originally posted by thebaron
To paraphrase "the simplest answer is the correct answer"
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Monotheistic?
Originally posted by Z'ha'dumDweller
Okay, I gotta ask...Occam's Razor?
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Re: Re: Re: Monotheistic?
Originally posted by thebaron
But that takes the fun out it it...
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Re: Re: Monotheistic?
Originally posted by Jan
Still, there are other examples of JMS misspeaking on the DVD commentaries so perhaps we should go with Occam's Razor.
Jan
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Re: Monotheistic?
Originally posted by SpooRancher
Although the Centauri have a great pantheon of gods and goddesses, there are a few things to consider.
What do the Centauri say when they are scared or startled? Great Maker! That means they acknowledge ONE creator.
Many of the Centauri gods are former emperors.
Could it be that the Centauri believe in one Creator, and many lesser deities?
Things that make you go "Hmmmmmm...."
Still, there are other examples of JMS misspeaking on the DVD commentaries so perhaps we should go with Occam's Razor.
Jan
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Originally posted by Z'ha'dumDweller
Maybe he said "polytheistic." I am at work so I cannot check on it right now.
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Monotheistic?
Although the Centauri have a great pantheon of gods and goddesses, there are a few things to consider.
What do the Centauri say when they are scared or startled? Great Maker! That means they acknowledge ONE creator.
Many of the Centauri gods are former emperors.
Could it be that the Centauri believe in one Creator, and many lesser deities?
Things that make you go "Hmmmmmm...."
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<<(not to mention Londo talking about some of them in The Parliament of Dreams )>>
And the number came from Chrysalis.
Londo: Vir, how many gods do we have in our pantheon now?
Maybe he said "polytheistic." I am at work so I cannot check on it right now.
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