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  • #16
    Re: Which of the books would make a good tv movie?

    Originally posted by Shr'eshhhhhh
    I don't read tie in books, I have tonnes of dvds and videos to watch, books to read and lots creative dibs and dabs on the go. (not to mention an active social life....ok that was a lie folks) I quite like the comics but I still want my B5 to be an audio, visual experience. Ive heard alot of good about some of the spin off B5 books though and was wondering, which are best, which are the most in keeping with the feel of the show and which would you recommend be filmed should the magic fairy of fundingland drop a huge pile of cash at WB's and JMS?
    About the books, then.

    I've read the first 2 trilogies and "The Shadow Within." The 3rd trilogy is winking at me from my bookshelf, waiting for me to finish Mumon's book on buddhism and Pratchett's "Mort" first.

    So, anyway, the books.

    Psi-Corps trilogy.

    First book was about the founding of the Psi Corps and it covers a vast period of time, so it's a very dense book. It also tells of how telepaths became to be on Earth. Some people have said previously that the book is way too fast and you need to make notes to understand each character's lineage, but I dunno -- didn't need to do that. I enjoyed it greatly, myself. Personally I disliked the whole telepath aspect in the series, they always felt like a "deus ex machina" bit of the show. To beat the shadows, to spy on others, etc. Telepaths are given a face in this book. I'd say if you're a B5 fan and want to know about what happened before, then you must read it

    Second book was about Bester growing up and his life. I'm not a telepath myself, of course, but I could really relate to his childhood, so the book was awesome. Bester really grows during this book. The people who said that Bester's character never changed in that other thread should read this one

    Third book was very slow compared to the first two. It tells of Bester's last few months. Not much to say about this one, really. It was relatively good.

    I found the Psi Corps trilogy to be inspirational -- nice, clean style that motivated me to write myself, heh. The characters were captured, but weren't all that true to the show, in my humble opinion. Oh and even vorlons made an appearance

    Second trilogy then. Centauri one. By Peter David.

    The three books were similar in style, so there's really no point in discussing them separately. Peter David captures the characters perfectly. You can't help but imagine the actors saying those lines. I'd say if you're going to read one trilogy, read this one.

    "The Shadow Within" at first feels like the exercises of a literature student, but about 1/3 through, it settles into one style and follows it faithfully to the end. Sheridan isn't captured as vividly as I would have liked, but Morden is certainly true to the Morden of the series.

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    • #17
      I have read 3 trilogies and "To Dream in the City of Sorrows".

      First B5 book i read was "To Dream...", it was good and as i liked Sinclair character it was very interesting book. Very B5-ish. 9/10

      Telepath trilogy is my favorite. Could be even best B5 ever (including series). 10/10
      - First two books i would rate 10/10 and last 9.0/10. Bester and Vacit are my all time favorite B5 characters.

      Centauri trilogy. Sometimes a little dull and slow but as a whole its good read. Must read for every B5 fan. 7/10

      Technomage trilogy. I have only read 1 and half books. Lets only say that i don't like Technomages and Cavelos writing style. 2/10

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Gkar4ever
        Capt. Montoya, if you read the way Lord of the Rings was written and screenplayed, you'd be amazed that they came from the same source. The jumpiness would all be taken care of in movie format, and I would personally *love* to see "to Dream..." in movie format.....
        I have read Lord of the Rings... I actually like much better how "Two Towers" is shown on screen than the two completely separate books on the novel (and I don't mind that some parts had to be taken out for the movies).
        So maybe you're right, a good screenplay could make the material of "To Dream in the City of Sorrows" work just fine.

        But that book, and "The Shadow Within," seem to me stories that would have made good TV movies only while B5 was in reruns on TNT or Sci-Fi, since they are of more interest to the fans than to the general public. Without the series as the back-up and background to them I think it would be very hard to make them work.

        I liked all three trilogies, since the Technomages always interested me and I liked Galen I liked the Technomage trilogy quite a bit. The demystification and of the technomage "magic" was quite good.
        The Centauri trilogy was quite good too, great to fill in the blanks on the descencion of Centauri Prime into the hands of the Drakh and how it's ended by the ascencion of Vir.
        The Telepath trilogy was good, but the less cohesive of them, due to the material covered. Still, the birth of the Psi-Corps is a good story, the books on Bester beginning and end were good too (and that little tidbit with the statue at the end of Bester tying up the three books was good).
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        • #19
          <<You can't help but imagine the actors saying those lines.>>

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Sigma
            I have read 3 trilogies and "To Dream in the City of Sorrows".

            First B5 book i read was "To Dream...", it was good and as i liked Sinclair character it was very interesting book. Very B5-ish. 9/10

            Telepath trilogy is my favorite. Could be even best B5 ever (including series). 10/10
            - First two books i would rate 10/10 and last 9.0/10. Bester and Vacit are my all time favorite B5 characters.

            Centauri trilogy. Sometimes a little dull and slow but as a whole its good read. Must read for every B5 fan. 7/10

            Technomage trilogy. I have only read 1 and half books. Lets only say that i don't like Technomages and Cavelos writing style. 2/10
            You need to read "The Shadow Within" (Dell #7, reprinted by DelRey). I don't especially care for Cavelos' writing style either, but the subject matter is fascinating.
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            • #21
              I always thought ' The Shadow Within ' could make a really good scary/horror movie. What happens to the crew of the Icarus would make compelling viewing.
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              • #22
                Originally posted by circularREASON
                I always thought ' The Shadow Within ' could make a really good scary/horror movie. What happens to the crew of the Icarus would make compelling viewing.
                Agreed, and far scarier than "Thirdspace." Got to have Melissa Gilbert for the movie, though.
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                • #23
                  Just curious...what is it that you don't care for about Cavelos' writing style?
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Z'ha'dumDweller
                    Just curious...what is it that you don't care for about Cavelos' writing style?
                    The sheer frequency of her bouncing between the A & B threads. After awhile, I feel like a tennis ball. She needs to switch less often, sticking with each thread longer.
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by AislingGrey
                      WorkerCaste, as much as I appreciate the codpiece, what I really want to see is Andreas getting more work. Anywhere. He's completely brilliant, and I can't understand why he isn't cast all over the place. The dial is loaded with great dramas with character roles aplenty. He'd be brilliant on any of them. I'd particularly love to see him on The Sopranos; he has a great resume of mafiosos to his credit, and as a super bonus, it would bring him to the east coast for a period of time (thinking about east coast cons!).



                      No, actually Shr'eshhhhhh, that would be Andreas.

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                      • #26
                        Having just read 'City of Sorrows' I agree with those who have suggested that it would make a good film. The only problems being get Mr O'Hare and co looking younger than War Without End. Still with a bit of bootpolish to the hair and a silk stocking over the lens. I shall look for your other suggestions after thoroghly enjoying this very good read. One question though are the Whitestar fighters the same as the ship Sheridan takes for his Sunday ride? Can't be I guess, that ship though smaller than a Whitestar was too big to be a fighter. It would be great to see one. Also was the Excalibar the Battle cruiser version that Sheridan proposes in season 5?
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                        • #27
                          <Also was the Excalibar the Battle cruiser version that Sheridan proposes in season 5?>>

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                          • #28
                            Cheerz ZHDD I imagine seeing as the two ships in A call to Arms were prototypes future versions would get to look more Minbari/Vorlon style organic. I apologise for the rubbish spelling it is getting late, time for bed methinks.
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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Shr'eshhhhhh
                              One question though are the Whitestar fighters the same as the ship Sheridan takes for his Sunday ride? Can't be I guess, that ship though smaller than a Whitestar was too big to be a fighter. It would be great to see one.
                              No. Note that the Whitestar has an extra appendage up top, where its bridge is. The Bluestar (as we call it) didn't have that. Its bridge was in the nose.

                              From: SiL - JMS Speaks

                              "What was the ship Sheridan flew?
                              It's a smaller, personal version of a White Star."


                              Originally posted by Shr'eshhhhhh
                              Also was the Excalibar the Battle cruiser version that Sheridan proposes in season 5?
                              Yes, but not a "Battle cruiser"...it's the "Destroyer class of Whitestar." In Earthforce, the big ships are called "Destroyers" and so JMS went against the traditional Navy term here (probably just because he liked the sound of the word).
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                              • #30
                                <<Yes, but not a "Battle cruiser"...it's the "Destroyer class of Whitestar." In Earthforce, the big ships are called "Destroyers" and so JMS went against the traditional Navy term here (probably just because he liked the sound of the word).>>

                                Ever checked out the Star Wars Technical Commentaries by Dr. Curtis Saxton at theforce.net? This dude has a whole chapter devoted to why Star Destroyers should not have been called "Destroyers." He takes the arc of a planet on screen and tells you its circumference. He had another Dr. buddy examine Vader's skeleton as seen in one frame when he was being electrocuted in ROTJ and he tells you what kind of damage each disc on his spine has suffered.

                                Ridiculous.

                                But yeah, it makes sense to me in terms of the Omegas being destroyers. "Destroyer" sounds tougher than "cruiser" or "frigate."

                                I personally liked the Hyperions better. They reminded me of subs.
                                Recently, there was a reckoning. It occurred on November 4, 2014 across the United States. Voters, recognizing the failures of the current leadership and fearing their unchecked abuses of power, elected another party as the new majority. This is a first step toward preventing more damage and undoing some of the damage already done. Hopefully, this is as much as will be required.

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