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  • #91
    Originally posted by Marsden View Post
    Back to B5...

    I'm guessing, with JMS here, there will be No Bester, No Psicorps, No Sheridan, No Sinclair, No Valen, No Londo, No G'kar, and No Delenn, and possibly No Shadows or Vorlons. He will almost certainly make a whole new story and a whole new universe ...
    ... with at least one Laurel and/or David, a major character with the initials JS, a Russian who frequently reminds us how Russianly Russian s/he is, and someone whose first lesson from Dad was never to start a fight, but always finish it?

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    • #92
      Originally posted by Sinclair's Fan View Post
      But personally, I'd prefer either a continuation of the original, or a reboot that somehow incorporated the original into the plot in some clever JMS way, (perhaps as a sequel or prequel..., maybe 'pre' by 1000 years or something).
      ...still got my fingers crossed for this, ha-ha!

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      • #93
        He could do an alternate timeline B5, so that the timeline we know and love still exists, but allows for a new version to be told.

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        • #94
          Originally posted by Delenn_of_Mir View Post
          He could do an alternate timeline B5, so that the timeline we know and love still exists, but allows for a new version to be told.
          No alternate timelines, please - that is JJ Abrams' expertise

          I have very little doubt that JMS will surprise us, and in a good way, telling some untold, but B5 related story ...
          Jan from Denmark

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          • #95
            On a side note, I found a Babble On podcast from back in 2011 where JMS discusses the rebooted TV series that didn't happen when the proposed distribution system didn't materialize. It's worth listening to again where JMS talks about the reboot. The interview starts about an hour and ten minutes in and JMS talking about the reboot at about 2:25

            http://www.geekplanetonline.com/host...ent=FeedBurner

            Jan
            "As empathy spreads, civilization spreads. As empathy contracts, civilization contracts...as we're seeing now.

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            • #96
              I simply don't get it, I really don't.

              Question #1: why reboot such a great series? Why try to fix something that isn't broken?

              Question #2: are you sure JMS will actually make it better this time? I mean, look at the stuff he did after B5. 75% of it makes me cringe (Thor... Ninja Assassin... Underworld 4...), and the other 25% is on the same level of quality at best.

              Also don't forget he's been writing comics for a long time, and this invariably takes its toll on people.

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              • #97
                Thanks Jan! I had subscribed to babble on through itunes, spent an entire day downloading all of them onto my ipod, then after listening to 11 or 12 every single one was removed from my ipod! When I went back to try downloading them again they only had one left: the Peter Jurasik interview. So I was very happy to see I can still dl them from the main website.

                As far as the reboot, I don't get why people think that changing something ruins it or in any way changes what has gone before. Classic B5 will always exist and no matter what Joe does with the reboot, it won't change the original at all.

                So I don't see the reboot as Joe trying to fix anything. He just wants a second chance to see what he can do now. His original 5 year plan did get sideswiped and derailed several times. Sinclair having to leave, WB dropping him after season 4, etc.

                I like that he loves B5 so much that he wants to do it all again. And I want to see more B5 soooo bad that I'll accept anything he comes up with. As long as it still feels like B5 universe it will be good.

                I haven't seen a lot of the new stuff he has done, but I have liked everything I saw except for Jeremiah, and that was only because of Joanna. "giggles"

                He made me care for Thor, a character I would never have cared much for before. Changeling was amazing! I watched an eppy of Murder She Wrote, that he wrote, the other day and it was leaps and bounds better than most of the eppies I had seen. JMS is a fantastic writer and I seriously doubt by all the awards he has won and the success of Studio JMS that his work has suffered any since B5 ended.
                Last edited by Delenn_of_Mir; 08-02-2014, 03:52 PM.

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by Delenn_of_Mir View Post
                  So I don't see the reboot as Joe trying to fix anything. He just wants a second chance to see what he can do now.
                  As the old saying goes, "you can't step into the same river twice". Old B5 was magical, and I'm afraid this can't be redone.

                  As for JMS' post-B5 work, just take a look at Crusade. A good, solid series (which would have gotten even better, had it been given proper time to grow), but significantly more comic-like than B5.

                  Originally posted by Delenn_of_Mir View Post
                  Changeling was amazing!
                  This movie would account for the 25% I was talking about

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by strashiLOL View Post
                    As the old saying goes, "you can't step into the same river twice". Old B5 was magical, and I'm afraid this can't be redone.

                    As for JMS' post-B5 work, just take a look at Crusade. A good, solid series (which would have gotten even better, had it been given proper time to grow), but significantly more comic-like than B5.


                    This movie would account for the 25% I was talking about

                    To each their own. We can't all like the same thing.

                    I do understand the fear that maybe the magic can't be recaptured again, B5 was very, very special, but I think that if we're willing to set aside our expectations and start the B5 journey over again we will stand a better chance of being able to enjoy it. And who knows, maybe Joe will pull it off and the new movie/movies will be brilliant and just as wonderful as the first ones. "giggles"

                    I am super excited and hopeful, anyway.

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                    • Originally posted by strashiLOL View Post
                      I simply don't get it, I really don't.

                      Question #1: why reboot such a great series? Why try to fix something that isn't broken?
                      Question in return: why let such a rich universe fade into obscurity? Because that's its fate if something doesn't happen.

                      Question #2: are you sure JMS will actually make it better this time? I mean, look at the stuff he did after B5. 75% of it makes me cringe (Thor... Ninja Assassin... Underworld 4...), and the other 25% is on the same level of quality at best.
                      Who can be sure of anything? However, aren't you trying to compare unlike things? Thor: Not the script writer (though I did see hints of JMS-isms in it), Ninja Assassin: RE-written to order, Underworld 4: Again, written to order and in an existing franchise. The B5 movie is designed to be under JMS' complete control.

                      Also don't forget he's been writing comics for a long time, and this invariably takes its toll on people.
                      Wow, there's a loaded statement! By implication, you seem to think that writing comics makes somebody a worse writer? How so? JMS is proficient in several very different forms and in my opinion, that makes him a much better writer.

                      Jan
                      "As empathy spreads, civilization spreads. As empathy contracts, civilization contracts...as we're seeing now.

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                      • He never wrote a script for THOR, he wrote an outline, and wasn’t sure if what was left of it in the final movie even warranted a story credit (which he got).. You’d think on a forum dedicated to the man that at least someone (other than terrible old me) would point that out for clarity and accuracy if nothing else. Because saying, and then arguing (as some do), that he wrote Thor (or even WWZ for that matter) in the wider internet full of people who know the facts of the matter, is one sure way to give him and his fans a bit of a negative reputation for...... Just saying, guys.

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                        • You mean like I did in the post above yours Tom? Is that what you mean?

                          Just sayin'...

                          ETA: By request and given that there's so little concrete info (much less possible spoilers), I'm putting this thread back in the B5 forum as it has the most traffic, I think.

                          Jan
                          Last edited by Jan; 08-02-2014, 08:00 PM.
                          "As empathy spreads, civilization spreads. As empathy contracts, civilization contracts...as we're seeing now.

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                          • Hurraaaays! Thanks Jan!

                            For a long time I used to forget there even were other forum categories. "giggles"

                            Even if we do have fewer posters here, it's nice we don't have all the trolls they have on IMDb.

                            As for the movie, I think it would be cool if it was like distorted mirror.

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                            • And staying focused on the positive, this reboot announcement and discussion has to be good for #FREEBABYLON5 and raising awareness for the original series. Certainly as news spreads and some tangibles start to happen next year there will be some network that wants to start re-airing the original. So reboot aside, things have to be looking good for #FREEBABYLON5 achieving the major goal of getting the show back where new fans in the U.S. can be made and old fans can be reminded why they love the series so much.
                              Susan Ivanova, "I'll be in the car."

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                              • Originally posted by Jan View Post
                                However, aren't you trying to compare unlike things? Thor: Not the script writer (though I did see hints of JMS-isms in it)
                                Originally posted by Triple F View Post
                                He never wrote a script for THOR, he wrote an outline, and wasn’t sure if what was left of it in the final movie even warranted a story credit (which he got).
                                Guys (and girls ), you got me all wrong! I wasn't saying he was solely responsible for those 3 movies, but he was heavily involved in all of them (in Thor's case it at least warranted a story credit, which is more than he was given for WWZ), and all of them turned out equally horrible. It doesn't say anything decidedly negative about JMS himself, but it gets one thinking.

                                Originally posted by Jan View Post
                                Wow, there's a loaded statement! By implication, you seem to think that writing comics makes somebody a worse writer? How so? JMS is proficient in several very different forms and in my opinion, that makes him a much better writer.
                                Jan, you know (at least I think so...) my opinion on comics. I don't consider them art, even remotely, just a form of mass-entertainment. But that's a pointless discussion, I apologize for bringing the topic up again.

                                Originally posted by Jan View Post
                                Question in return: why let such a rich universe fade into obscurity? Because that's its fate if something doesn't happen.
                                Why not tell a new story in this universe? Set 10 years after the end of B5, it could work. It would be difficult to have the station itself play a major role in it, but it could still work.

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