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  • #16
    In the script for "Infection" that is in the scriptbooks, they blow Nelson out of the airlock. I'm betting it was a WB note to not kill the guy.

    Originally posted by WorkerCaste View Post
    Also, I just couldn't believe they could lose a whole deck on a station where finding room for a couple of coffee plants was a big deal.
    Grey Sector was a place no one really went to though full of industrial stuff. Coffee plants were taking up room in the hydroponics/airponics bay where food for the station is supposed to be grown. Different purposes different problems.
    Last edited by JoeD80; 06-15-2012, 11:20 AM.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Milkman View Post
      As for the books, i enjoyed them all. BUT the trilogies i think were the best.
      Have you read Dell #5?
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      • #18
        Originally posted by JoeD80 View Post
        Grey Sector was a place no one really went to though full of industrial stuff. Coffee plants were taking up room in the hydroponics/airponics bay where food for the station is supposed to be grown. Different purposes different problems.
        So Grey Sector was too ghetto for security
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        • #19
          Originally posted by WorkerCaste View Post
          I have always thought of TV series episodes as bad, good and great. Guess I', part Minbari. I can watch a series if the three categories are mostly evenly divided. I don't talk about another category... horrible. They don't exist because as a series approaches horrible, I depart.

          That being said, Babylon 5 was the first series where I honestly thought the three categories were seriously out of balance -- in a good way. Almost no bad, some okay, and a lot of great. You would think that would make me more tolerant of the lesser episiodes, but in a perverse way, it makes me pickier, I think.

          "Infection" was the "monster loose on the station/ship/base" that had been done before. It didn't bring much new, and the resolution was right out of "The Changeling" from original Trek. Then came the last last act, and you had the conversation between Garibaldi and Sinclair, and you had the artifacts being spirited off. So overall, to me, the episode was basically "bad" (nothing new), but it got lifted up to "good" by the character development at the end and a wonderful performance by David McCallum.

          Likewise, for me, "TKO" seemed overdone with regard to the martial arts story line, but the Ivanova story elevated it. "Grey 17" was the monster story again, with even less connections to the arc. Also, I just couldn't believe they could lose a whole deck on a station where finding room for a couple of coffee plants was a big deal. The Ranger One story elevated that episode, though.

          I've always thought that the worst episode for me was "Exogenesis". I do like Marcus and Stephen working together, but there wasn't enough character development there to elevate this one.

          Again, these are my opinions, but they are not by rote. I look at those and see flaws (or lack of originality) that lessen my enjoyment. I think these are some of the same things that other people see.

          Believe me, though, I don't think any less of someone who enjoys them! It all comes down to what takes you out of the moment. What breaks the willing suspension of disbelief. It also doesn't mean that I like Babylon 5 any less. It was a truly great show.
          That's a great point. I understand better why someone would feel Infection was nothing new because it's been done so many times. I just thought while not unique in itself was executed rather well, I do have a problem with the unit burning the 2 lurkers but later Sinclair isn't killed when hit. That does hurt the episode, also I would have thought the outline and surrounding area of the lurkers should have been black, not the area of their silouette, basically the opposite of what was shown.
          "And what kind of head of Security would I be if I let people like me know things that I'm not supposed to know? I mean, I know what I know because I have to know it. And if I don't have to know it, I don't tell me, and I don't let anyone else tell me either. " And I can give you reasonable assurances that the head of Security will not report you for doing so."
          "Because you won't tell yourself about it?"

          "I try never to get involved in my own life, too much trouble."

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Marsden View Post
            I do have a problem with the unit burning the 2 lurkers but later Sinclair isn't killed when hit.
            Ah. Inside info. What you didn't know was, those two lurkers were both wearing red shirts under the rest of their clothes.
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            • #21
              Originally posted by OmahaStar View Post
              Ah. Inside info. What you didn't know was, those two lurkers were both wearing red shirts under the rest of their clothes.
              D'oh! Now I know, don't wear red in space, or the future. Or even now.
              "And what kind of head of Security would I be if I let people like me know things that I'm not supposed to know? I mean, I know what I know because I have to know it. And if I don't have to know it, I don't tell me, and I don't let anyone else tell me either. " And I can give you reasonable assurances that the head of Security will not report you for doing so."
              "Because you won't tell yourself about it?"

              "I try never to get involved in my own life, too much trouble."

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Marsden View Post
                D'oh! Now I know, don't wear red in space, or the future. Or even now.
                Sinclair was wearing a security FLAK JACKET.
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by KoshN View Post
                  Sinclair was wearing a security FLAK JACKET.
                  Yes, so only his head and hands should have disintigrated. I see.
                  "And what kind of head of Security would I be if I let people like me know things that I'm not supposed to know? I mean, I know what I know because I have to know it. And if I don't have to know it, I don't tell me, and I don't let anyone else tell me either. " And I can give you reasonable assurances that the head of Security will not report you for doing so."
                  "Because you won't tell yourself about it?"

                  "I try never to get involved in my own life, too much trouble."

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                  • #24
                    And just to yank this off the rails, did I mention that I've recently acquired a B5 flak jacket? Check it out at:

                    http://photos.b5archivist.com/Galler...t=Photo&ci=008

                    Jan
                    Last edited by Jan; 06-17-2012, 09:39 AM.
                    "As empathy spreads, civilization spreads. As empathy contracts, civilization contracts...as we're seeing now.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Marsden View Post
                      Yes, so only his head and hands should have disintigrated. I see.
                      Franklin got grazed by the first firing of the beam weapon. The two lurkers got hit dead-center by the beam when it was 20% stronger. When Sinclair and Garibaldi and the security team ambushed it, it didn't fire. It burned through the ~12" thick floor and escaped. Shortly after, it hit Sinclair with the beam in a glancing blow in the left shoulder of the vest, and the vest looked singed.

                      It was said that after each firing it had to recharge before coming back to fire again. It's possible that after just burning a hole through a 1 foot thick metal floor, it wasn't up to full power when it shot Sinclair in the vest.
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Jan View Post
                        And just to yank this off the rails, did I mention that I've recently acquired a B5 flak jacket? Check it out at:

                        http://photos.b5archivist.com/Galler...t=Photo&ci=008

                        Jan

                        That is totes cool!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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                        • #27
                          I tried Dell number one today and put it down on page 22 because the characterization of Sheridan and Ivanova, and Garibaldi was soooo off that I couldn't bear it anymore.
                          *shudders*

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