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How about the station, B5 itself? OK, I'm way out there........
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What about Warren Keffer... I don't think he's been mentioned.Such... is the respect paid to science that the most absurd opinions may become current, provided they are expressed in language, the sound of which recalls some well-known scientific phrase
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The eleventh post of this thread.Originally posted by Capt.Montoya
What about Warren Keffer... I don't think he's been mentioned.
The thing about him is that he didn't SEEM like a pilot.Recently, there was a reckoning. It occurred on November 4, 2014 across the United States. Voters, recognizing the failures of the current leadership and fearing their unchecked abuses of power, elected another party as the new majority. This is a first step toward preventing more damage and undoing some of the damage already done. Hopefully, this is as much as will be required.Comment
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Ah... Keffer's appearance in the series was so uneventful that his appearance in this thread slipped my mind.Originally posted by Z'ha'dumDweller
The eleventh post of this thread.
The thing about him is that he didn't SEEM like a pilot.
Such... is the respect paid to science that the most absurd opinions may become current, provided they are expressed in language, the sound of which recalls some well-known scientific phrase
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Hey, he...he...uh...bunked and drank with some dirtsiders, was a constant fifth wheel in the second season...and...he was killed by a Shadow vessel!Originally posted by Capt.Montoya
Ah... Keffer's appearance in the series was so uneventful that his appearance in this thread slipped my mind.
What if he wasn't killed and TMoS is about a probe that cuts a swath of destruction through the galaxy on its way to Earth and when it gets there, Sheridan can't stop it, but like a new minor character bonds with the probe and it's found to be a huge vessel controlled by the mind of an altered Keffer. The new minor character can be an ex-lover of his that thought he was dead. So the lover stops the probe and gets to be with Keffer forever and the probe vanishes.
Wait...that sounds familiar...Recently, there was a reckoning. It occurred on November 4, 2014 across the United States. Voters, recognizing the failures of the current leadership and fearing their unchecked abuses of power, elected another party as the new majority. This is a first step toward preventing more damage and undoing some of the damage already done. Hopefully, this is as much as will be required.Comment
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Hey! You may have something there...Good job the G.O.B.'s at PARAMOUNT don't read this thread. Because, as we all know, they are professionals and WOULD NEVER take all the best ideas, thoughts, character names, long term story structures, or anything like that, at all, from a show ever! Er...no, hang on, wait a minute......Originally posted by Z'ha'dumDweller
Hey, he...he...uh...bunked and drank with some dirtsiders, was a constant fifth wheel in the second season...and...he was killed by a Shadow vessel!
What if he wasn't killed and TMoS is about a probe that cuts a swath of destruction through the galaxy on its way to Earth and when it gets there, Sheridan can't stop it, but like a new minor character bonds with the probe and it's found to be a huge vessel controlled by the mind of an altered Keffer. The new minor character can be an ex-lover of his that thought he was dead. So the lover stops the probe and gets to be with Keffer forever and the probe vanishes.
Wait...that sounds familiar...
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No doubt. About the only growth he experienced was the type where his constituent parts expanded in a vacume. To be fair, though, he didn't have a lot of air time to develop.Originally posted by Capt.Montoya
What about Warren Keffer... I don't think he's been mentioned."That was the law, as set down by Valen. Three castes: worker, religious, warrior."Comment
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Actually, now that you mention it, going from a UN in space, to a heavily armed military installation, to a rogue outpost, to the headquarters of an interstellar alliance, to an old wreck, that no-one visited.Originally posted by Ben-Thayer Dunnthaedt
How about the station, B5 itself? OK, I'm way out there........
I'd call that growth, yes.Comment
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Yeah, but the real change didn't come until it just fell apart at the seams....Originally posted by Stunaep
Actually, now that you mention it, going from a UN in space, to a heavily armed military installation, to a rogue outpost, to the headquarters of an interstellar alliance, to an old wreck, that no-one visited.
I'd call that growth, yes.
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Oh, changed the LEAST............sorryI'd call that growth, yes.
kidding, heh.
Not sure I agree entirely, Stunaep. The inhabitants of the station grew and changed, in MANY different ways. But the station only grew once that I can remember, and that's in GROPOS where they were upgraded with new weaponry. But there's also the ep where they rebooted the computer system and it came back with that annoying, neurotic voice-Harlan Ellison's it was.........but that would be going backwards, yes?
Wait, how about when the Churchill's star furies joinded the station in Severed Dreams? That would qualify as growth. But then again those furies replaced other furies lost in the battle, so it was quid pro quo.
I love threads like this.
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I think Draal grew the least. He started off as a mentor to Delenn. A wise man, at the end of his life, willing to risk everything for a dying stranger. And turned into a somewhat silly (in a nice way) prankster and all round Mr Jellyvoice.
Draal went from being a sort of Minbari Gandhi to a very eccentric uncle who went" woooooowoooooowooooowoooooo" while waving a feather duster in your face.
....Actually I take it all back he did grow and improve too.
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N'Grath sure didn't do much growing over his time in the series.
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*herOriginally posted by vacantlook
N'Grath sure didn't do much growing over his time in the series.
Recently, there was a reckoning. It occurred on November 4, 2014 across the United States. Voters, recognizing the failures of the current leadership and fearing their unchecked abuses of power, elected another party as the new majority. This is a first step toward preventing more damage and undoing some of the damage already done. Hopefully, this is as much as will be required.Comment
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How could you tell?? <g>Originally posted by Z'ha'dumDweller
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As far as I've always seen, jms refers to N'Grath as male.*herComment
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