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  • #16
    'B5forthedecrepitandsenile.com
    Boy.

    ::Takes out glasses::

    That's an awful lot of letters so close together! Can anybody here read this?
    "That was the law, as set down by Valen. Three castes: worker, religious, warrior."

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    • #17
      A link to the other thread...
      http://jmsnews.net/forums/showthread...=&threadid=374

      I'm also over 30... and still remember when I though that was old!
      Such... is the respect paid to science that the most absurd opinions may become current, provided they are expressed in language, the sound of which recalls some well-known scientific phrase
      James Clerk Maxwell (1831-79)

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      • #18
        Originally posted by WorkerCaste
        Boy.

        ::Takes out glasses::

        That's an awful lot of letters so close together! Can anybody here read this?
        Put your reading glasses back on : D

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        • #19
          What's that? I can't hear you!
          "En wat als tijd de helft van echtheid was, was alles dan dubbelsnel verbaal?"

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Shadow-Sentient
            after seeing that done any number of times and watching 'boy wonder' Wesley Crusher fix anything and everything ... [/B]
            Hey now.. be nice to Wesley. I know tons of people hate him, but I am just a few years younger than him and he was my favorite character... and led to my getting involved in computers and what im doing today.

            So.. while his character may be corny to some, he was infact an inspiration to me at a young age. Which i think is kind of what Gene intended, or at least what i would like to believe. And to me that makes that character a great sucess.

            OK.. i return you to your argument.. that should be discussed on that other thread.
            Milkman
            www.mhoc.net

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            • #21
              I suppose could throw in a hearing aid quip here, though anymore jokes at our senior citizen friends' expense would be made at the risk of sounding spiteful, repetitive, and, er, old.

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              • #22
                Milkman, I hear what you are saying, and confess that I am entirely selfish in saying that I hayed Wesley's charactor because I thought the show didn't NEED to appeal to all audiences by building in special charactors (at least they had no robots).

                Crusher was a lot less annoying than the "Q" charactor or Luaxanna(?) Troi, though. I never watch an episode with either of the latter. I would rather watch paint dry
                I believe that when we leave a place, part of it goes with us and part of us remains. Go anywhere in the station, when it is quiet, and just listen. After a while, you will hear the echoes of all our conversations, every thought and word we've exchanged. Long after we are gone .. our voices will linger in these walls for as long as this place remains. But I will admit .. that the part of me that is going .. will very much miss the part of you that is staying.

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                • #23
                  Well, at least when Wesley was there later on, we got Ashley Judd. Can't be too bad.
                  Recently, there was a reckoning. It occurred on November 4, 2014 across the United States. Voters, recognizing the failures of the current leadership and fearing their unchecked abuses of power, elected another party as the new majority. This is a first step toward preventing more damage and undoing some of the damage already done. Hopefully, this is as much as will be required.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by grumbler
                    Milkman, I hear what you are saying, and confess that I am entirely selfish in saying that I hayed Wesley's charactor because I thought the show didn't NEED to appeal to all audiences by building in special charactors (at least they had no robots).
                    No Robots? Data?

                    Actually my gripe with Data wasn't that he was (beneath that humanoid exterior) a robot... but that he seemed too much of an attempt to establish the same dynamics as having a Vulcan without having one, so it wouldn't seem just a repeat.

                    I agree that introducing a character (like Wesley) just so it will appeal to a certain audience should be unnecessary... there was no such character in the original Star Trek and I still liked it. The problem is that the stories around such young sidekicks too easily fall into the "young guy makes a mistake, the other characters help solve the problem, the young one learns a valuable lesson." When stories have such a transparent moral and plot I go "yech."
                    Is good to know that at least it inspired some young ones.
                    Such... is the respect paid to science that the most absurd opinions may become current, provided they are expressed in language, the sound of which recalls some well-known scientific phrase
                    James Clerk Maxwell (1831-79)

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                    • #25
                      Ack! You don't like Q either!!! I suppose your going to say the borg were a patheic attempt at including older sci-fi themes of man vs robots and various works on the loss of humanity when diluted with technology.

                      It may be that, but i think you have forgotten how to enjoying a show for its entertainment value.

                      Besides, it had more value than baywatch or re-runs of Dallas... which were the things my parents were watching... well ok i was watching baywatch too.

                      And before we get into any more of an argument on this, if you want to have one, just start up a thread.. and i shall join you since this really isn't on track with the B5 forum.
                      Milkman
                      www.mhoc.net

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                      • #26
                        It wasn't that I hated Wesley, I didn't. In reality ALL the characters had moments when they were less than palatable, some just had more. I actually found Troi's character to be much more annoying in her "whiny" episodes. Besides, we only had to deal with Wesley for 3 1/2 seasons.

                        And Zha's comment about Ashley Judd - I agree that she's nice to look at, but that episode (for me) is the one where Wesley's character is more annoying than any other in the entire run of the series. And if you watched the interviews with Ron Moore, he discusses the episode First Duty a lot. He says that he did NOT write Wesley ratting out the members of his squad, he wanted all the members to stay mum and admit nothing. Moore said that he wanted to make the point that you don't rat out your friends, and that it was Rick Berman who forced them to rewrite it so that Wesley gives them all up to the court. Apparently Berman insisted that no one in Star Fleet would lie to protect their friends. I guess they don't go to the can either.

                        But Majel R. said that Wesley's character was actually Gene, supposedly the wide-eyed personality, fascinated with all the cool stuff. I think the viewing public totally missed that one.

                        But Grumbler m'man, I have to disagree with your opinion of Q. I always enjoy J. DeLancie's episodes. He has great delivery, well, for me that is.
                        "The cat is not evil for killing the rat, nor is the rat evil for stealing the grain. Each acts according to its nature." Master Po - Kung Fu:TOS

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                        • #27
                          <<And Zha's comment about Ashley Judd - I agree that she's nice to look at, but that episode (for me) is the one where Wesley's character is more annoying than any other in the entire run of the series.>>

                          She is very nice to look at. I have something of a redhead fetish. Which ep was that? The Game? I don't even remember.
                          Recently, there was a reckoning. It occurred on November 4, 2014 across the United States. Voters, recognizing the failures of the current leadership and fearing their unchecked abuses of power, elected another party as the new majority. This is a first step toward preventing more damage and undoing some of the damage already done. Hopefully, this is as much as will be required.

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                          • #28
                            From
                            Tom Smith Online

                            ConValescence
                            Words and Music: ® 1998 by Tom Smith
                            with a denouement to the tune of Mark Bernstein's arrangement of "The Green Hills of Earth" by Robert A. Heinlein

                            This is intended as a counterpoint to Frank Hayes's wonderful song "When I Was A Boy". It also points up something I've been thinking about lately: When will someone come up with a fannish retirement home? It makes perfect sense, and the only problem will be lots of fans retiring early to get in.


                            Nothing can last forever,
                            Nor halt the progress of Time,
                            So imagine us all together,
                            When we're all way past our prime.

                            Our children still won't understand us,
                            Their children will covet our toys,
                            So now is the time we should plan this,
                            Retaining our fannish joys.

                            (Chorus)
                            So let us all gather at ConValescence,
                            The fannish retirement con,
                            And true to our habits, like drumming pink rabbits,
                            It keeps going on and on.

                            When we cannot keep up with the gamers,
                            When the Next Generation's too spry,
                            Let's all move into The Bionic Arms,
                            And party till after we die.

                            The guests, of course, are all legends,
                            The cream of the speculative crop,
                            Still writing their stories long after
                            We've given up hoping they'll stop.

                            There's Piers Anthony's newest Xanth novel,
                            David Eddings, Misty Lackey and thus,
                            Between that, and Star Trek books, we're certain,
                            That the series won't end before us.

                            (Chorus)
                            So let us all gather at ConValescence,
                            Where old-timers go to renew,
                            (optional spoken shtick:
                            "Renew! Renew! Attorney General Renew!")
                            Where Doug Adams' hero is named Effer Dent,
                            And the Film Room shows Mister Magoo.

                            Where the Art Show has pictures of Dorian Gray,
                            Where the Tully and oxygen's pure,
                            And where we will party, flirt, filk, shmooze, and SMOF
                            Till the Con Suite runs out of Ensure.

                            Just try to imagine that banquet,
                            Of whatever foods we can still eat,
                            And the Masquerade will take forever,
                            'Cause with blue hair, we all can compete.

                            And on Sunday, we'll have us a dead dog,
                            Stuffed, on wheels, with a braided pull-string,
                            And then we'll go back and start over again,
                            We've already forgot the whole thing.

                            (Chorus)
                            So let us all gather at ConValescence,
                            The fannish retirement con,
                            And true to our habits, like drumming pink rabbits,
                            It keeps going on and on.

                            Waiting till the last moment for tickets
                            To that WorldCon that's up in the sky,
                            We'll have a last bash at The Bionic Arms,
                            And party till after we die.

                            (Denouement)
                            We pray for one last landing on
                            The planet third from Sol;
                            When our journey ends, we will wear Depends,
                            And take our Geritol.


                            ® by Tom Smith. All rights reserved.

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                            • #29
                              Yep, The Game. Also, wasn't the first alien woman with Riker a redhead too? Although the makeup department decided they should have these round globules on their foreheads remeniscent of butt cheeks. But I'm sure there were other redheads, let me think now...............
                              "The cat is not evil for killing the rat, nor is the rat evil for stealing the grain. Each acts according to its nature." Master Po - Kung Fu:TOS

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Ben-Thayer Dunnthaedt
                                Yep, The Game did have the one alien redhead. Although the makeup department decided they should have these round globules on their foreheads remeniscent of butt cheeks. But I'm sure there were other redheads, let me think...............
                                But was that the one with Ashley?
                                Recently, there was a reckoning. It occurred on November 4, 2014 across the United States. Voters, recognizing the failures of the current leadership and fearing their unchecked abuses of power, elected another party as the new majority. This is a first step toward preventing more damage and undoing some of the damage already done. Hopefully, this is as much as will be required.

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