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    I just want to throw this out there in case there's somebody who can actually pick up the thread and run with it. For those who have already listened to commentary track on The Gathering, Straczynski and Iacovelli talk about a mysterious prop object that reportedly has been in shot for all sorts of genre projects. JMS presses the production designer for a bit more information about the object, but to no avail. I notice in a recent news group post that Joe said he still hasn't found out.

    Well, this thing has been driving me crazy for several days, and I finally found a bit of time to comb through some old interview notes, and I'm 99% convinced that the object in question is the over-thruster from Buckaroo Banzai. During production on B5, I spent a fair amount of time with the props guys Bear Burge and Dark Hoffman, and they were nice enough to give me a tour of the prop cage and let me take some photos for an article I had hoped to do for the B5 Magazine. For those who haven't seen it, the prop cage was like a wizard's cave of cool B5 stuff, basically every object that had been purchased or built from scratch for the series, all crammed into shelf after shelf. And one of the items that Dark Hoffman showed me was the over-thruster, which I think had appeared as a piece of Whitestar debris in one episode. But one of the guys told me that the object had been handed around to other prop department guys on other shows and movies, who would then do their best to work it into a shot. I think it was a private joke amongst themselves, not really meant for anybody else.

    So like I said, that object seems to fit what Iacovelli had discussed. I don't have any compunction about discussing it here, because we were talking on the record, and if the B5 Magazine article had ever been done, people would have heard about it years ago anyway. Like I said, I throw it out here in case somebody more knowledgeable than myself has something to add. Any thoughts?

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    Joe, it was nice knowing you. Really glad I had a chance to meet you at Hawthorne. Because I think that the Woodland Creatures are going to have to make an example of you, ya know? Like what happened to Big Pussy. Sleeping with the fishes, know what I mean, wink wink, nudge nudge, say no more...



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    • #3
      With a name like Nazzaro? In northern New Jersey? I don't think so. Where do you think The Sopranos takes place, anyway?

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      • #4
        Thanks Joe! Now who's 'Dragon'? And have you told JMS this yet?

        Jan
        "As empathy spreads, civilization spreads. As empathy contracts, civilization contracts...as we're seeing now.

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        • #5
          Wasn't the "Oscillation Over Thruster" prop also used in a ST:TNG episode? -- "Pen Pals" I think. Maybe in another episode as well. Can't find a picture anywhere 'though. Have to dig out that episode myself, meh.

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          • #6
            With my curiousity piqued, I did a quick search for "Buckaroo Banzai overthruster prop" and, among others, found this page with some interesting info:

            http://www.figmentfly.com/bb/q30.html
            "That was the law, as set down by Valen. Three castes: worker, religious, warrior."

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            • #7
              Originally posted by WorkerCaste
              With my curiousity piqued, I did a quick search for "Buckaroo Banzai overthruster prop" and, among others, found this page with some interesting info:

              http://www.figmentfly.com/bb/q30.html
              Looks like you found it! And there it was mentioned in Universe Today, too. Darn, I don't have many of my issues left.

              Jan
              "As empathy spreads, civilization spreads. As empathy contracts, civilization contracts...as we're seeing now.

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              • #8
                My image search yielded one result - & that was the line drawing at the bottom of this page...

                http://www.worldwatchonline.com/banzinst.htm

                Anyone recognise it?

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                • #9
                  Like I said, if I threw it out there, it was just a matter of time before other people did a bit of poking around and were able to confirm it. Good work, everybody!

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by mike_9000
                    My image search yielded one result - & that was the line drawing at the bottom of this page...

                    http://www.worldwatchonline.com/banzinst.htm

                    Anyone recognise it?
                    I don't recognize it from its B5 usage, but as a bit of explanation for others, you aren't looking for the whole of that picture. The overthruster is the center piece of that, inside the frames allowing axis rotation.

                    This is what you are looking for, unless they useD some of the other stuff:

















                    Getta youra OvaThrusta fix here!
                    Last edited by NotKosh; 08-25-2004, 09:51 AM.
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                    • #11
                      That'a little Asian'a creture. That'a overthruster is'a everywhere!

                      Damn'a you Bonzai! I'll'a see you in'a HELL!!!
                      Anthony Flessas
                      Writer/Producer/Director,
                      SP Pictures


                      I have no avatar! I walk in mystery and need nothing to represent who and what I am!

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                      • #12
                        With a name like Nazzaro? In northern New Jersey? I don't think so. Where do you think The Sopranos takes place, anyway?
                        Heh. Good point. <g>

                        So, did you get your 'button' yet, Joe? Should we be worried about insulting you either obliquely or directly?

                        Aisling

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                        • #13
                          Re: The Mystery Object

                          Originally posted by Joe Nazzaro
                          I just want to throw this out there in case there's somebody who can actually pick up the thread and run with it. For those who have already listened to commentary track on The Gathering, Straczynski and Iacovelli talk about a mysterious prop object that reportedly has been in shot for all sorts of genre projects. JMS presses the production designer for a bit more information about the object, but to no avail. I notice in a recent news group post that Joe said he still hasn't found out.

                          Well, this thing has been driving me crazy for several days, and I finally found a bit of time to comb through some old interview notes, and I'm 99% convinced that the object in question is the over-thruster from Buckaroo Banzai. During production on B5, I spent a fair amount of time with the props guys Bear Burge and Dark Hoffman, and they were nice enough to give me a tour of the prop cage and let me take some photos for an article I had hoped to do for the B5 Magazine. For those who haven't seen it, the prop cage was like a wizard's cave of cool B5 stuff, basically every object that had been purchased or built from scratch for the series, all crammed into shelf after shelf. And one of the items that Dark Hoffman showed me was the over-thruster, which I think had appeared as a piece of Whitestar debris in one episode. But one of the guys told me that the object had been handed around to other prop department guys on other shows and movies, who would then do their best to work it into a shot. I think it was a private joke amongst themselves, not really meant for anybody else.

                          So like I said, that object seems to fit what Iacovelli had discussed. I don't have any compunction about discussing it here, because we were talking on the record, and if the B5 Magazine article had ever been done, people would have heard about it years ago anyway. Like I said, I throw it out here in case somebody more knowledgeable than myself has something to add. Any thoughts?
                          Joe, I'd like to thank you for that revelation.

                          It gives me a nice warm feeling inside, knowing it is a Buckaroo Banzai item. Of all the SF movies I have seen, this one magnificent piece of sheer genius had one of the worst public receptions. So it is ironic that amongst all the other SF series, a little piece of BB is present.
                          "I am not a number! I am a free man!"

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                          • #14
                            Excellent work Joe!

                            I think JMS is going to be amused by this revelation.
                            Buckaroo Bonzai weilds amazing geek power!

                            Forget the Sopranos, watch out for Hanoi Xan and the World Crime League!

                            Laugh a-while a-you can, monkey boy!
                            Only a fool fights in a burning house.

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                            • #15
                              Home'a is'a you where'a you wear'a your hat! I feel'a so break-up, I wanna go home.
                              Anthony Flessas
                              Writer/Producer/Director,
                              SP Pictures


                              I have no avatar! I walk in mystery and need nothing to represent who and what I am!

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