The Apocalypse Box.

[grumbler]

Originally posted by Bonehead
Eh ?

It must be your dry American humour. Completely over my head I'm afraid.

I was agreeing with you and extending an earlier humorous conversation. In retrospect it doesn't seem to have been such a good idea.

In essence, I agree that the key to the movie is going to have to be dealing with the Shadows in a way that establishes their menace clearly for the new viewers. There are lots of ways JMS can go after than, but before the memories can be ominous their subject has to be.

[nanorc]

....the latter being well in line with tactlessness and unoriginality.

Cheers

[NotKosh]

Perhaps you should be telling us about that very fine line between cleverness and stupidity...

[nanorc]

There tends to be a pretty thick line between vain, lackluster attempts to be humorous and incoherent babble.

[Bonehead]

Eh ?

It must be your dry American humour. Completely over my head I'm afraid.

People on this thread were posturing over how easy or difficult it would be to tell the story of the telepath war or Drakh war in TMoS without all the back story, that could be confusing to someone new.

I was simply pointing out that unless the Shadows feature heavilly one way or another, new people would be even more confused considering the title.

[grumbler]

Originally posted by Bonehead
Ok, as this thread is heading in the movie speculation direction, I'll throw my two cents in.

All the debates over telepath war or Drakh or Technomage stories etc, can only be sub-plots to the main story (in my opinion)

If you're going to sell a film called 'The Memory of Shadows' to the general public, the main story would have to be about 'Shadows' in no small part. Anything else that spins off from that, like the Drakh or Technomages, would be sub-plots within the Shadow main story.

There you go! We said this a long time ago: the plot will be the guys and gals sitting around al la the "da Bears" skit on SNL and remembering their own particular memories of the Shadows (followed by the appropriate flashback) and then wondering who would win in a football game, the Ditka Bears or the Shadows (followed by three alternate endings, which would be shown in random order so the fans have to thrice see the movie in order to choose which ending is "best."

[Joseph DeMartino]

No more calls, please. We have a winner!



Joe

[Dipper]

Great, I knew we would get in to bottom of this. The A-box is an audio version of the Kamasutra and each of them is designed for one level of intimacy and pleasure.


-Dip

[Joseph DeMartino]

There are six of them...

"We have six..." That's it. The things are Centauri artifacts. Probably marital aids of some sort.

Regards,

Joe

[Capt.Montoya]

OK, I can believe that any B5 story on the screen will need maybe the same amount of expository material... (but I still think that the Teep War may be a future movie, not part of TMoS)

I'd speculate that TMoS may involve the teepsicles and technomages as the most obvious human examples of remaining Shadow influences.
Likely to include the revelation of Earth Force research into Shadow Tech (which would be revelation for those unfamiliar with the unproduced Crusade scripts).

Or maybe TMoS is the story of the Drakh War?

And as Bonehead says... maybe it'll even include an Apocalypse Box.
There are six of them...

[Bonehead]

Ok, as this thread is heading in the movie speculation direction, I'll throw my two cents in.

All the debates over telepath war or Drakh or Technomage stories etc, can only be sub-plots to the main story (in my opinion)

If you're going to sell a film called 'The Memory of Shadows' to the general public, the main story would have to be about 'Shadows' in no small part. Anything else that spins off from that, like the Drakh or Technomages, would be sub-plots within the Shadow main story.

The exciting thing for me, is to see how the Shadows are going to be worked back into our B5 universe. Whether through flash-backs of before they left, or them actually returning. Personally, I think we will see parts of Drakh, Technomage and psi corps stories woven into the main plot.

Who knows, maybe even an apocalpse box

[cornholio1980]

Originally posted by Dipper
The conflict isn't between the teeps and mundanes, but between teeps and rogue teeps led by Lyta Alexander

I'm aware of that, but fact is: You don'T need to know the story about Byron to understand that story. Just set up that the Psi Corps is not necessarily a good thing (which really shouldn't be a problem), and that's about it...

I still think that a movie about the Drakh needs way more background info than a story about the telepath conflict...

[Dipper]

I'm not sure, but IMVHO there is a difference if the reason is personal instead of general.

Just a thought )

-Dip

[AmyG]

IMO without the series as background the general public may find themselves clueless on a Telepath War movie without excessive exposition.

X-Men didn't seem to have a problem establishing the fact that there are mutants, they are disliked by most of the US's population, and that there was leglislation starting up that was aimed at stripping them of their rights as citizens.

LOADS of people who'd never read the X-Men comics had no trouble accepting the standing premises used in the films.

Aisling

[Dipper]

Originally posted by cornholio1980
I don't understand why that should be a problem. What is there really to know except that there are Telepaths, they are controlled by the Psi-Corps, and now there's a conflict between teeps and mundanes?

The conflict isn't between the teeps and mundanes, but between teeps and rogue teeps led by Lyta Alexander. That war flamed up greatly because Bester got Byron killed and that's one big story, I see it quite hard to explain the whole history of the personal relation ships etc. so that the story remain plausable.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doing a movie about the teep war would also require both casts of B5 and Crusade, because Matheson is neck deep involved in the war.


-Dip