Actual April announcement

[Biffy Clyro]

Hi Biffy, welcome.

Thanks I've been lurking around since the days of old...
Many familiar names here from rastb5m.

No, I don't think it contradicts anything he's said previously. JMS had mentioned a while back that he had a couple of TV projects that he was going to be taking out this season. He did "Shattered Union" for Bruckheimer and mentioned before that there was a second project possible.

ETA: Somebody posted to JMS' Facebook page that he'd announced via Ain't It Cool News that the B5 project had fallen through. The link psted went nowhere and JMS tweeted "Nothing to say on that count at the moment." just a few hours ago.

Jan

Thanks for clearing that up. I guess i need to add JMS' FB page to my bookmarks. It's just that i don't like the idea of getting sucked into facebook (...and i'm on a waiting list for a google+ account, go figure)

I wish April 2012 was already here

[KoshN]

ETA: Somebody posted to JMS' Facebook page that he'd announced via Ain't It Cool News that the B5 project had fallen through. The link psted went nowhere and JMS tweeted "Nothing to say on that count at the moment." just a few hours ago.

Jan

Probably somebody trying to wheedle info. out of JMS (via JMS wanting to quash a false rumor.).

What was that B5 quote about readiness to believe bad news, but unwillingness to believe good news, i.e. viewing good news with suspicion? I can't find it, my Droid won't search on my usual quote site:

http://www.cs.tut.fi/~albert/Quotes/B5-quotes.html

[Jan]

Probably somebody trying to wheedle info. out of JMS (via JMS wanting to quash a false rumor.).

Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Looks like it was a brand new FB account.

What was that B5 quote about readiness to believe bad news, but unwillingness to believe good news, i.e. viewing good news with suspicion? I can't find it, my Droid won't search on my usual quote site:

http://www.cs.tut.fi/~albert/Quotes/B5-quotes.html

"Dukhat said that when there is good news, we always ask if it is true or not, because it is so hard to believe. When there is bad news, we rarely inquire, because it is always so easy to believe."

Forell in "Lines of Communication".

Jan

[KoshN]

Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Looks like it was a brand new FB account.

A real looking name or an obvious troll/bot like John Herpes?

"Dukhat said that when there is good news, we always ask if it is true or not, because it is so hard to believe. When there is bad news, we rarely inquire, because it is always so easy to believe."

Forell in "Lines of Communication".

Jan

THANK YOU, JAN! That was killing me, not knowing that quote. Seems appropriate for the current situation, doesn't it?

[Jan]

A real looking name or an obvious troll/bot like John Herpes?

Looks real enough but no profile pic, only one profile item. So it looks like he joined just to post that? Seems odd. And yeah, I'm thinking that it was a ploy to wheedle something out of JMS. Obviously the guy doesn't know JMS very well! JMS is about as un-wheedle-able as they get!

THANK YOU, JAN! That was killing me, not knowing that quote. Seems appropriate for the current situation, doesn't it?

"I live to serve, I serve to live."

Jan

[KoshN]

Looks real enough but no profile pic, only one profile item. So it looks like he joined just to post that? Seems odd. And yeah, I'm thinking that it was a ploy to wheedle something out of JMS. Obviously the guy doesn't know JMS very well! JMS is about as un-wheedle-able as they get!


"I live to serve, I serve to live."

Jan

Re. JMS, I think you misspelled stubborn (i.e as stubborn as they come.)

Re. that "serve" quote, how dare you remind me of B5:TLaDiS and the Minnie Mouse of the dojo. GAH! ACK! <ptui!>

[Jan]

Re. JMS, I think you misspelled stubborn (i.e as stubborn as they come.)

You say po-TAY-toe, I say po-TAH-toe.

Re. that "serve" quote, how dare you remind me of B5:TLaDiS and the Minnie Mouse of thd dojo. GAH! ACK! <ptui!>

I had a feeling you'd recognize it. I'm a brat that way.

Jan

[KoshN]

You say po-TAY-toe, I say po-TAH-toe.


I had a feeling you'd recognize it. I'm a brat that way.

Jan

I TRY to forget it, but so far, Lyta's mindwipes have been ineffective in removing it. Maybe she's slipping.

[JoeD80]

Latest B5 tweets:

re: Babylon 5 announcement

Nothing to say on that count at the moment

re: Babylon 6

There's always a chance provided it has the freedom to be done properly

re: Babylon 5 makeover a la original Trek

No

re: Babylon 5 reboot a la original Trek

It would certainly be workable with again the proper creative control

[vakie]

Getting closer? Posted on facebook by Joe in reference to the Harlan book announcement:

This is a separate announcement [from the big B5 announcement], I'll have something to say on the other matter before comiccon.

So now it looks we only have a couple of weeks to go, comic con starting on July 21.

[AmyG]

Latest B5 tweets:
re: Babylon 5 reboot a la original Trek

I'm sure it's an unpopular opinion, but I don't want to see this. The original universe/timeline story has already been done, and done well. I don't need to see it again with other actors, and I don't want to see it again with other actors.

But I'm sure I've made my position on this really, really clear numerous times already. :-)

[Marsden]

I'm sure it's an unpopular opinion, but I don't want to see this. The original universe/timeline story has already been done, and done well. I don't need to see it again with other actors, and I don't want to see it again with other actors.

But I'm sure I've made my position on this really, really clear numerous times already. :-)

I'm with you, I rather see nothing than a Nu5.

I wouldn't mind a "parallel story" that involved other characters and was told from their point of view during the course of the events already covered, but that really wouldn't be a NuTrek reboot.

Maybe calling it a reboot is an overgeneralization (they are rampant, remember people compared B5 to DS9 because they were both set at a space station, oh yeah there was no difference there, right? ). Also saying "like NuTrek" could be an attempt to drum up popularity for financial purposes since that movie made so damn much.

[KoshN]

I'm with you, I rather see nothing than a Nu5.

Agreed. No need to remake B5 with new actors. Absolutely no need. I feel about this like G'Kar felt about being reborn. He'd already been born, and quite sufficiently, he thought.

I'd like to see Crusade finished, with the original actors. I'd like to see the Telepath War story told, with the original actors, preferrably in a TV miniseries, because, as a theatrical release, I can't see it doing better than Firefly's "Serenity," and that was considered to be a financial failure. I'd also like to see the Shadow War of ~1258 told, but it'd be in the same boat that "Serenity" was. At least, the 1258 war could use a largely new cast.

It seems to me that a B5 theatrical release now is doing things bass ackwards and that a strong TV presence should be there BEFORE a feature film should be released. Otherwise, you could have a feature film flop to put the final nail in B5's coffin.

[valens_shadow]

Can somebody tell me the difference between a makeover and a reboot "a la original Trek"?

I look forward to any Babylon 5, big screen or TV that JMS is involved in. I honestly can't see he would be on board to re tell the original five year story at this juncture. That would be something for 20 - 50 years in the future from now. Even then I can't see it would be necessary as Babylon 5 main strength was its story and the characters within, so will probably still be the greatest science-fiction series ever.

I hope that we are talking about a Babylon 5 movie and a new Babylon 5 universe series at the same time. Hopefully this series will be airing while the movie is being made. That would show some ambition from Warner Brothers !

[AmyG]

Well, that's interesting. ComicCon coming up quite soon, months-long rumors of an announcement from JMS concerning B5, WB taking over the B5 Facebook page and posting about ComicCon there...

And now Claudia has had dinner last night with Bruce, Mira, Pat, and Bill, and has posted pictures of it on her Facebook page:

Claudia's Fan Page