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  • There's a scene in "The Gathering" that I still don't quite get. I feel like it's important but I don't understand it. It's where G'Kar walks into a smoky area and is talking to a woman. I"m guessing it was Lyta or a changing Lyta or was it Carolyn? It was hard to tell since they both have red hair. He tells her there's been a complication. I don't get that scene. How is that important? What was their role in the whole poisoning of Kosh?
    Last edited by calloutdrummer1247; 07-05-2013, 03:49 PM.

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    • It was the Minbari using the changeling net to look like Lyta.

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      • Oh.....I didn't know that.

        So another question....You know the episode where Londo and Lienner was playing poker? And Londo was cheating by using one of his 'six' to take cards for him?

        Am I the only one who had no idea what that was the first time I've seen that episode? I even watched "The Long Night of Londo Morreli" several times before I saw that he had six on his side. Finally, I looked it up on the Babylon 5 project wiki and found out that it was his private parts. Am I the only one who had no clue what that thing was in the poker episode?

        I actually thought it was the same as the feeder thing from another episode!

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        • Originally posted by calloutdrummer1247 View Post
          I actually thought it was the same as the feeder thing from another episode!
          There's been some discussion if the same molds were used in constructing the Nakaleen Feeder tentacle and Londo's 'attributes' but I think one had a sharper tip than the other. As for knowing what it was, when Lennier asked what it was, Londo shows him Li, goddess of passion and she's got six tentacles coming from her sides. We don't get a clear look but in theory, she should have six slots along her back that would fit the tentacles. At one point they were going to show that aspect in a scene between Londo and Adira but it didn't happen for some reason - probably budgetary.

          Jan
          "As empathy spreads, civilization spreads. As empathy contracts, civilization contracts...as we're seeing now.

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          • i have a question that I been wondering. Just how much make up do they put on Andreas K. in each episode? For example, in the episode that Garibaldi was framed, G'Kar was only in one scene. So, did they only put on the head makeup right down to his neck where the shirt meats? Which leads me to wonder if that black shirt under his costume is the actor's t-shirt he left on, or G'Kar's shirt. After all, he was only in one scene.

            Or does he wear makeup all over in every episode that he's in? Or only when his chest, or his hands are going to be exposed?

            Same with Londo, I'm assuming that the only time they put those '6' is when they are going to expose his chest? I've always wondered that about their makeup.

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            • I would say in my recent experince, the best place to answer that question is in the "echoes" books. There are interviews with the cast and crew including some quite detailed ones with make up and wadrobe, nothing specific comes to mind in the episodes you mentioned but perhap if you read the books or consult Janopedia (aka her supreme Jan-ness) or some of the other long term members (apart from me that is) you might have some luck.
              Phaze
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              • Originally posted by calloutdrummer1247 View Post
                i have a question that I been wondering. Just how much make up do they put on Andreas K. in each episode? For example, in the episode that Garibaldi was framed, G'Kar was only in one scene. So, did they only put on the head makeup right down to his neck where the shirt meats? Which leads me to wonder if that black shirt under his costume is the actor's t-shirt he left on, or G'Kar's shirt. After all, he was only in one scene.

                Or does he wear makeup all over in every episode that he's in? Or only when his chest, or his hands are going to be exposed?

                Same with Londo, I'm assuming that the only time they put those '6' is when they are going to expose his chest? I've always wondered that about their makeup.
                Yes, they'd only put on what prosthetics were necessary for that day's shooting. Which I'm sure is one reason why you so seldom see G'Kar out of his gloves. And they only used the chest prosthetic when the script called for him to be out of his usual clothes such as when he was in his night clothes or when he was whipped.

                Even with practice, as I recall G'Kar's makeup sessions were over 2 hours every day. And while the chest prosthetic *may* have been useable more than once, for the most part an entirely new set of prosthetics had to be made for every day

                Jan
                "As empathy spreads, civilization spreads. As empathy contracts, civilization contracts...as we're seeing now.

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                • I've been wondering, why did Andrea Thompson leave the show in season 2 or 3? Did it have something to do with being married to Doyle?

                  Why did the person who played Susan leave the show?

                  Also, I know that one of the reasons why O'Hare left the show was because of medical reasons but I"ve also read that also had something to do with the marriage between Doyle and Thompson and Doyle wanting him off?

                  I've tried doing a Google search but for some reason when it comes to Google search, I don't think Google likes Babylon 5 very much. And the Babylon 5 project wiki (similer to STar Trek's memory alpha site), is not very good. Someone needs to overhaul that site in my opinion. Take a few cues from Memory Alpha.

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                  • Originally posted by calloutdrummer1247 View Post
                    I've been wondering, why did Andrea Thompson leave the show in season 2 or 3? Did it have something to do with being married to Doyle?
                    She wanted more screen time. JMS stuck to his plan. She asked to be released. He let her go. Boy did he give her a great episode to go out on, huh?

                    Why did the person who played Susan leave the show?
                    That one's a little more complicated. With uncertainty over a fifth season, the actors were asked to sign an extension of the time for picking up their options while negotiations were going on with TNT. When the time came to sign contracts, Claudia needed time off to do a movie. JMS could give her verbal assurance but not in writing. Claudia refused to sign the contract and therefor wasn't in the fifth season. It may or may not have been a failed attempt by Claudia or her agent to get more money.

                    Also, I know that one of the reasons why O'Hare left the show was because of medical reasons but I"ve also read that also had something to do with the marriage between Doyle and Thompson and Doyle wanting him off?
                    The marriage had nothing to do with it. Jerry Doyle's shot off his mouth a few times that he'd given ultimatums to the producers that he'd leave if Michael wasn't fired but frankly, I don't buy it. Jerry's never been anything but boorish when it came to Michael. I've heard of him telling stories about Michael sounding paranoid, which ties in to what JMS told us in May. If Jerry didn't know about Michael's problems, then he's just a boor. If he did know, he's more of an ass than I've given him 'credit' for. Pity, because the chemistry between Garibaldi and Sinclair was amazing.

                    Jan
                    "As empathy spreads, civilization spreads. As empathy contracts, civilization contracts...as we're seeing now.

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                    • That is a shame, especially since as you say, and I agree they had amazing screen chemistry.

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                      • Originally posted by Jan View Post
                        That one's a little more complicated. With uncertainty over a fifth season, the actors were asked to sign an extension of the time for picking up their options while negotiations were going on with TNT.
                        Also should point out that Claudia is the one who convinced the others in the cast to sign the extension and she chose not to sign the very same extension.

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                        • I wonder, did G'Kar stay in his ambassador's quarters after being reduced to citizen? Or did he had to move out? It doesn't say but I couldn't help but wonder.

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                          • Originally posted by calloutdrummer1247 View Post
                            I've been wondering, why did Andrea Thompson leave the show in season 2 or 3? Did it have something to do with being married to Doyle?
                            At the Fedcon in Germany this year what she told us was that the decision was more of the financial kind. She went to another show with more screen time, so the "screen time" that Jan mentions is probably a part of that.
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                            • In the 'Questions about The Lost Tales' portion of the TV Movies script book, JMS states that the second in line to be emperor of Centauri Prime in 2271 is the Prime Minister. He describes the Prime Minister as "a lovely piece of work, who dies the same night as Londo." He goes on to say, "though I don't think anyone outside me will ever know or see the character"

                              My question is, is JMS referring to Prime Minister Durla from the Centauri trilogy? If so, why did he say no one outside of him would ever know the character? He did write the outline for the Centauri trilogy, after all...

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                              • I've been wondering, in the episode Walkabout, what ships came out of hypserspace with G'Kar? One of them look like they could've been a Centauri warship but I'm not sure.

                                And what ship was G'Kar in at that time? It was right after G'Kar helped defeat a shadow vessel then explained that he brought some friends.

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