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  • Melanie
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    Something I've been wondering about since I first watched And the rock cried out no hiding place... How did G'Kar find out that Vir smuggled 2000 Narns to safety? The first reference to it after Sic Transit Vir is when Londo uses it to blackmail him and then it's not mentioned again aside from somewhere in the Centauri trilogy.

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  • b5historyman
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    Originally posted by JasonDavis View Post
    I've always figured Valen was in suspended animation on the Vorlon homeworld.

    We know he left Minbar. The Minbari believed he would one day return. The Vorlons abducted other "chosen ones" over the years. It would make sense that the Vorlons would preserve him for some future manipulation of the Minbari.

    Depending on how much Valen confided in Kosh about his origins, Kosh itself might have seen to the preservation of Valen, not knowing that he originated in the 23rd century as Sinclair. I'm sure Kosh figured it all out pretty quickly upon meeting Sinclair in 2257, but its hesitancy to act openly against the Shadows may have been tied to uncertainty regarding the logistics of getting Sinclair to the past. I've always thought it was very telling that Kosh finally acted openly (and suicidally) just as the rift in Sector 14 was expanded and Sinclair received the letter from Valen.
    Valen being kept on the Vorlon homeworld is something I speculated on way back when I was compiling the Historical Database! As for whether Kosh and Ulkesh knew Sinclair in the past, I think that's pretty much been confirmed by the reedited version of the Gathering. I made quite a detailed posting on one of the Facebook groups about the whole thing.

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  • b5historyman
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    Originally posted by Jan View Post
    Yep. Copied the wrong one.
    I always assumed that former Senator Hidoshi was booted out by Clark when he started removing anyone who served under Santiago and putting his cronies in place.

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  • Jan
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    Originally posted by JasonDavis View Post
    Yep. Copied the wrong one.

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  • JasonDavis
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    Originally posted by Jan View Post
    That one JMS answered. He's just out of office.
    http://jmsnews.com/msg.aspx?id=1-13369
    I think you meant this post, Jan: http://jmsnews.com/msg.aspx?id=1-16755&query=hidoshi

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  • Jan
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    Originally posted by Satai with Punsch View Post
    Good question. I have wondered the same thing regarding senator Hidosi.
    That one JMS answered. He's just out of office.
    http://jmsnews.com/msg.aspx?id=1-13369

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  • Satai with Punsch
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    Originally posted by JasonDavis View Post
    I wonder whatever happened to Marie Crane.

    In January 2258, she lost the presidential election, then nothing. Did she retire? Did Clark have her killed when he took office and dissolved the Senate? These things keep me up at night.
    Good question. I have wondered the same thing regarding senator Hidosi.

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  • JasonDavis
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    I wonder whatever happened to Marie Crane.

    In January 2258, she lost the presidential election, then nothing. Did she retire? Did Clark have her killed when he took office and dissolved the Senate? These things keep me up at night.

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  • Jan
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    Originally posted by JoeD80 View Post
    For the Gut Reactions script, some of the season five notecards in the artifiacts book were used for this script, e.g. the Centuari who comes in to replace Londo. I always wonder why that script wasn't in the Other Voices books; it was an official script even if it didn't get produced.
    I know that both Peter and Bill refuse to sell copies. Dunno if there's a connection or not.

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  • JoeD80
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    On the Sense8 thought, I had the same thought somewhere around the forums here. And the characters do appear to be set up early as on the same team but maybe cracks will form as we go into season two setting up a telepath/sense8 crisis.
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    For the Gut Reactions script, some of the season five notecards in the artifiacts book were used for this script, e.g. the Centuari who comes in to replace Londo. I always wonder why that script wasn't in the Other Voices books; it was an official script even if it didn't get produced.

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  • Jan
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    You should have it now! Enjoy.

    Jan

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  • flobo
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    Thanks for the offer, that's nice

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  • Jan
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    Originally posted by flobo View Post
    That's the one, there were two names for that cancelled story but i couldn't remember the first one.
    Nothing in the script books but I have the script that was sent out to the department heads. I wrote a synopsis if you want to PM me an email address, I'm happy to send it to you.

    Jan

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  • flobo
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    Originally posted by Jan View Post
    Oh, I'm sure! As you read, you've probably noticed that JMS always finds a way to explore an idea!
    He does indeed .

    Originally posted by Jan View Post
    Not that I recall. The only one I'm familiar with was 'Gut Reactions' by Peter David and Bill Mumy.


    That's the one, there were two names for that cancelled story but i couldn't remember the first one.
    Last edited by flobo; 09-07-2016, 11:21 AM.

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  • Jan
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    Originally posted by flobo View Post
    I thought immediately about Sense8 while reading that, it's not exactly that, but there are definitively thematic connections.
    Oh, I'm sure! As you read, you've probably noticed that JMS always finds a way to explore an idea!


    Also, a completely disconnected question. In JMS' notes on season 5, there is a mention of the cancelled season 5 episode "Dying to be heard".
    Is the outline somewhere in the books ?
    Not that I recall. The only one I'm familiar with was 'Gut Reactions' by Peter David and Bill Mumy.

    Jan

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