Franklin character news

[Dr Maturin]

On Dr. Franklin...

Let's make one thing clear: JMS said the *character* would not be recast. What he did *not* say is that the role would not be recast, so it's anyone's guess as to who could step in to fill the void left by Rick's untimely death. I am still hoping for Holden.

[nanorc]

Character, role, whats the difference? Franklin is alive, but unseen from now until SiL. As to the plot, it could be restructured in a whole variety of different ways, who knows?

[Ranger1]

Good news,i dont want to see anyone replacing Rich B.

[Starkiller]

Good news,i dont want to see anyone replacing Rich B.

No kidding

[Joseph DeMartino]

Let's make one thing clear: JMS said the *character* would not be recast. What he did *not* say is that the role would not be recast,

Please telll me that you're kidding. You have to realize that "role" and "character" mean exactly the same thing, right?

No other actor is going to play Dr. Franklin in TMoS. That was never in the cards. The cast would not have stood for it, even if JMS had been inclined to try it, which I'm sure he never was.

And chances are the role will never be played by any other actor in any other B5 project, at least any featuring the original cast and that JMS is involved in. (If Warner Bros. rermakes B5 in 2025 all bets are off, of course. ) It would be too painful for all concerned and Franklin is unlikely to be that central to any of the future B5 universe stories JMS is likely to tell in the near future. So it is easier to simply write the character (or "role" if you prefer) out of the scripts for them.

(BTW, Franklin doesn't disappear between "Ojects at Rest" and "Sleeping in Light" - he has a guest role in an episode Crusade.)

Regards,

Joe

[Radhil]

Re: Franklin character news

Originally posted by Z'ha'dumDweller
On Dr. Franklin...

Let's make one thing clear: JMS said the *character* would not be recast. What he did *not* say is that the role would not be recast, so it's anyone's guess as to who could step in to fill the void left by Rick's untimely death. I am still hoping for Holden.

Unless you're suggesting a new doctor character invented to fill the plot hole now left behind... don't really see the difference. In acting circles the character and the role mean exactly the same thing.

[colonyearth]

Re: Re: Franklin character news

Originally posted by Radhil
Unless you're suggesting a new doctor character invented to fill the plot hole now left behind... don't really see the difference. In acting circles the character and the role mean exactly the same thing.

Yep, character and role are synonymous. I think what they were trying to say, is that whatever part a doctor might play in TMoS, which would've been for Dr. Franklin, could still go to another character for the most part...and that they hoped Marjeen Holden's character from Crusade would be called upon.

Let is kindly correct if we can. I understood the meaning, even though the language was flawed.



CE

[bakana]

Knowing JMS, he would NOT create a "new" doctor to perform whatever function Franklin would have had in the movie.
It's just not JMS's style. Richard Biggs was a Friend as well as an Actor in B-5.

Among other things, he's said that he is "making adjustments" to the script that were taking him a bit of time.

Just "plugging in" another character wouldn't require much in the way of adjustments.

Rewriting a chunk of the Story to compensate for losing a character would.
JMS will find a way to get to the same "Place" by a different route.

[Dr Maturin]

Let's not be so literal, people. By "role" I meant the function. Let us not forget Delenn's thoughts on English from ATRCONHP...to find the meaning of one word, you must look up another. Maybe she was using a thesaurus instead of a dictionary.

Honestly, CE knows..."role" has more than one definition. Thanks for the patronization, JDM.

[Dr Maturin]

<<Unless you're suggesting a new doctor character invented to fill the plot hole now left behind... don't really see the difference. In acting circles the character and the role mean exactly the same thing.>>

Well, I am sure as shit not suggesting Holden play Franklin...

And I am not in acting circles, so "role" meant the function that Rick was going to perform in the story.

[Joe Nazzaro]

Maybe 'role' and 'character' mean the same thing in acting circles, but in dictionary circles, it also means 'function,' as in, who could fulfill Dr. Franklin's role/function in the project? Personally, I would cast an actor as different from Biggs as possible so as to absolutely not invite comparison.

[Joseph DeMartino]

JMS said the *character* would not be recast. What he did *not* say is that the role would not be recast

You only use the term "recast" if you are putting a new actor in the same part. If you are putting a new actor in a new part there is no "recasting" involved, just casting, even if said part is also taking over the "role" in the series previously filled by another character. It wouldn't make any sense to say that Pat Tallman's part was "recast" with Andrea Thompson or that Michael O'Hare's was "recast" with Bruce Boxleitner. On the other hand, the role of Na'Toth was recast a couple of times, and that of Draal once.

Since you applied the term "recast" to both "character" and "role" there was no reason to think you were using the two in different senses.


Regards,

Joe

[nanorc]

Ah, I see. So basically what you're saying is its not enough to kick a dog while its down, you have to beat the living shit out of it.

I'll be on the bench with the popcorn ^^

[Dr Maturin]

I am biting my tongue on this one.

Next subject.

[colonyearth]

Originally posted by Z'ha'dumDweller
I am biting my tongue on this one.

Next subject.

Isn't it hard to speak with your tongue between your teeth?

I do agree that JMS won't just plug in another character such as Holden's. He will re-write a great deal and give as much of Franklin's key, informative dialogue to whatever major and well known characters as he can. He would want key info to come from the major cast, at least, that is what I would think JMS would do. I'm not him, so all of this is mere speculation on all of our parts.

No matter what, JMS has proven time and again that he can adjust beautifully to any situation or change...somehow making it better in the end than it would've been originally.

I can also say, I'm very confident that these rewrites have been extremely hard on JMS since Rick was a dear friend. I cannot imagine having to write out a friend of mine in a major film script what we had been waiting on and were excited to do, because he died unexpectedly. It would, in short, tear my heart out...I would cry with each page...each word.

And people wonder what's taking him so long.

CE