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Last edited by Snatcher42; 07-15-2010, 06:43 PM.
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Originally posted by Snatcher42 View PostSimply put, I think this is the best the series has ever looked, certainly much better than on DVD! Though I should note that I have a fast internet connection able to stream at max quality. Others' mileage may vary.
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Yeah, it's because of the CG work. They were never rendered into widescreen so what you see on the DVD is basically a cropped picture and since it was rendered in what would today be considered a very low resolution, it looks pretty bad.
Doing the same thing in BluRay would look even worse as the contrast between the nice HD quality live action footage and any scene with CGI (that includes composite shots) would be all the more stark.
The only way to release B5 in HD is to go back and re-render and re-composite every single CG shot. It'd be a huge amount of work as it would also entail rebuilding all of the assents up to HD standard and from what I gather, at the moment and for the foreseeable future that is just too expensive.
I suppose it's possible WB might spring for doing one of the movies ('In The Beginning' perhaps?) as a test to see if it can be done at a reasonable price and how well it might sell, but I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you.
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Originally posted by Reverend View PostThe only way to release B5 in HD is to go back and re-render and re-composite every single CG shot. It'd be a huge amount of work as it would also entail rebuilding all of the assents up to HD standard and from what I gather, at the moment and for the foreseeable future that is just too expensive.
Just imagine how much work was involved in building some of those epic space battles in the first place. Now imagine having to re-do those scenes (not as a new space battle, but shot for shot the exact same scene) from scratch, ensuring that you don't accidentally omit an iconic moment, or subtle background detail, that the fans love.
No pressure, huh?
It would have to be done shot for shot too, as otherwise the sound effects and music wouldn't fit and would also need to be re-done/re-editted, thus further adding to the time and expense of the venture.Last edited by Garibaldi's Hair; 08-21-2010, 08:07 AM.The Optimist: The glass is half full
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Originally posted by Garibaldi's Hair View PostIt is even worse than that, in fact ... as WB have lost all of the original CGI files, not only would they have to be re-processed to HD resolution, every CGI shot across all 110 episodes plus The Gathering, plus movies would need to be re-built almost from scratch. Some models were built in HD for The Lost Tales, but that only constituted a very small proportion of the models required for a full re-CGI of the show. They would also then have to painstakingly re-build every single FX shot to fit with what was in the original show.
Just imagine how much work was involved in building some of those epic space battles in the first place. Now imagine having to re-do those scenes (not as a new space battle, but shot for shot the exact same scene) from scratch, ensuring that you don't accidentally omit an iconic moment, or subtle background detail, that the fans love.
No pressure, huh?
It would have to be done shot for shot too, as otherwise the sound effects and music wouldn't fit and would also need to be re-done/re-editted, thus further adding to the time and expense of the venture.
As for the other points, I wouldn't expect any theoretical HD recreation to EXACTLY recreate the original shots. I mean what difference would it really make if (for the sake of argument) in Scene 21, Shot 3, Starfury #3 is further to the left and a bit higher than it was in the original version? Not much is how much.
Indeed, I'd fully expect any such attempt to improve upon the original scenes wherever appropriate. If nothing else they can correct that Agrippa/Roanoke mix up!
Bottom line; it'd be a lot of work no matter what, but I wouldn't permanently discount the possibility of it happening down the road a ways. I'm sure as soon as WB home video thinks that they'd make a profit on it in BluRay and/or download sales, they'd cough up the dough in a hot second.
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Originally posted by Reverend View PostBottom line; it'd be a lot of work no matter what, but I wouldn't permanently discount the possibility of it happening down the road a ways. I'm sure as soon as WB home video thinks that they'd make a profit on it in BluRay and/or download sales, they'd cough up the dough in a hot second.
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Recently at Comic-Con Brube Boxleitner reported that JMS told him about an idea he had for a feature film so my guess would be that at least some of the original cast would appear.
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Originally posted by ILUVJOHNSHERIDAN View PostIf there is a big screen B5 movie, do you think it would be the OLD charactors, or new ones like the new Star Trek movie?
I for myself think a B5 movie eventually isn't THAT uznlikely but it can be that there will never be one.
And if there will be a movie it can also happen that they use new characters or replace the/some actors for the roles.
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