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  • Macbeth
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    Originally posted by Trollheart View Post
    The short answer is that the Vorlons manipulated us for so long that I was convinced they were good guys!

    I'll always give them points for being the agency of Byron's suicide though. Hey, those guys are all right!
    I love it!

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  • Trollheart
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    The short answer is that the Vorlons manipulated us for so long that I was convinced they were good guys!

    I'll always give them points for being the agency of Byron's suicide though. Hey, those guys are all right!

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  • Macbeth
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    Thanks for the new poll

    How come you do not have the Vorlons on the evil page?

    Apart from Kosh 1.0 the Vorlons were major league pricks and murderers.

    Kill/disappear anyone who comes into their space
    Genetically program multiple races for their purposes (eg Telepathy) - indirectly this created PsiCorps
    Program races to worship Vorlons as angelic and form religions about them
    Do little to help younger races (eg technolgy transfer)
    Actively withhold technology and information (eg Deathwalker)
    Change the past and create an entire millenia long control of Minbari religion and society by taking an alien through time and fooling them into creating a new religion
    Sent Sheridan (their tool) with enough tech (White Star) to sneak attack a first one's capital city and also the home of THE first one
    Created other living weapons like Lyta
    Escalated the war against the Shadows (other first ones)
    Killed billions of innocent "younger race" sentients for no reason other than a shadow taint - one that they maybe could not help (see Centauri Prime)
    Mucked around with Thirdspace and left their mess.
    Who knows what other mischief

    At least as bad as The Shadows

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  • Marsden
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    Originally posted by Trollheart View Post
    ...It's the villains one, and while making it I was quite surprised to find that there are very few clear-cut "bad guys" in B5!...
    There isn't too much that's actually clear-cut in B5, like life actually, I think that's why we're still talking about it over ten years after the fact. It was just that good.

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  • Jan
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    Originally posted by Trollheart View Post
    So I had to include Londo (come on! The guy helped wipe out STAR SYSTEMS! Don't tell ME he's kind to small animals!)
    Well, he's kind to small children.

    Jan

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  • Trollheart
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    Lennier has a vote! Yay!

    I'll update the stats further tomorrow, but just to let you all know the next poll is up as promised. It's the villains one, and while making it I was quite surprised to find that there are very few clear-cut "bad guys" in B5! So I had to include Londo (come on! The guy helped wipe out STAR SYSTEMS! Don't tell ME he's kind to small animals!) and to make it a little more interesting I've also included some "abstracts" like Psi Corps and the Shadows, and also Nightwatch.

    Oh, those who wanted to vote for Sebastian? Now you can...

    www.trollheart.com/Bab5evilpoll.html

    Have fun!

    TH

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  • Trollheart
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    The current rankings as of today are:

    In first place, and putting more and more distance between himself and his nearest rivals every day, Ambassador/Citizen/Icon G'kar, with today a massive 15 votes! WAY out in front!

    Second is Londo, with a very respectable 8 votes
    Fighting it out for third place are those implacable enemies, John Sheridan and Al Bester, on equal 7 votes.

    Delenn has slid to 4th place, with 6 votes, accompanied by Ivanova, Garibaldi and Zathras ("Zathras trained in crisis management!")

    Sharing fifth place are Vir, Morden and Marcus, on 5 votes (Not a vote for poor Lennier yet?)

    Thx to all who voted so far. Those who didn't, what are ya watin' for?

    Most Evil goes up tonight --- boooo!

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  • Trollheart
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    Originally posted by ILUVJOHNSHERIDAN View Post
    It's hard to pick just one.

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    You don't have to! Although with a handle like that, you have a problem choosing?
    You can vote for as many as you like, all of them if you want. The ranking system is based on how many votes each character gets, so you can for instance vote for Delenn, and also give Londo and Bester a vote if you want.
    Vote however you like!

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  • Spoo Junky
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    I like them all, but I'd pick Londo and G'Kar. They had the best interaction. That part where they were trapped in the elevator together was priceless.

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  • ILUVJOHNSHERIDAN
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    It's hard to pick just one.

    Main - John Sheridan
    Villian - Bester

    I Like Sinclair, but I am happy with what JMS did with him being Valen and all, I do not think the story would of worked well with Sinclair and Delenn getting together. The chemistry between Sheridan and Delenn worked out quite well.

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  • Morden
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    Still 0 votes for Byron? What a surprise...

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  • Trollheart
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    That's damn weird! I clearly remember putting him in, as "Commander/Ambassador Jeffrey Sinclair"! Wonder why that happened?

    I don't think I can re-edit it, though...

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  • Macbeth
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    Sakai but not Sinclair?

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  • Trollheart
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    You're welcome. You'll like the next one: they're ALL evil!

    As of today G'kar is keepin' it real for Narns everywhere, as he powers away into the lead with 9 --- count 'em, 9! --- votes! Go-oooooooo G'Kar!
    Coming up fast is his arch-enemy/best friend/foil, Ambassador Londo Mollari of the Centauri Republic, neck-and-neck with another ambassador, Delenn of the Minbari!

    Getting exciting now, folks!

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  • Macbeth
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    Originally posted by Macbeth View Post
    The poll was a nice idea, but the site requires registration and I am not coughing up my email and going through the process.

    I was going to vote for Lou Welch anyway. Him and Morden

    Cheers
    Thanks for fixing it. I voted for all the evil characters. Without them the show would be boring.

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